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Subject: Re: Mate in 15.......Test your Engines!.....CM9000....mate in 15 also

Author: Rob Basham

Date: 17:30:52 02/03/05

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On February 03, 2005 at 19:19:45, John Merlino wrote:

>On February 03, 2005 at 19:00:21, Rob Basham wrote:
>
>>On February 03, 2005 at 18:05:49, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On February 03, 2005 at 17:44:07, Rob Basham wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 03, 2005 at 14:37:52, Rob Basham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D]1b2r1k1/6pp/pp6/7Q/1n2r3/Pq1NB3/1P2P2P/R5RK w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>Every solution i worked out so far with the computer seems to be a mate in
>>>>>15..interesting!
>>>>>
>>>>>However, None of my programs or engines will ann. a mate until half way
>>>>>through..
>>>>>beginning with
>>>>>1. Rxg7+
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe someone can find a shorter mate...:-)
>>>>
>>>>CM9000 also says mate in 15..but by a new way!
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>there must be about 20 solutions to this...~
>>>
>>>Did you wait until CM9000 announced mate, or did you force a few moves and do a
>>>little bouncing around yourself?
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>
>>Hi John...
>>
>>I just made the moves it was thinking about or calculating...
>>
>>no program will ann. mate until close to the end...
>>
>>I guess because there are so many possibilities...:-)
>>
>>best regards,
>>
>>rob
>
>After forcing 1.Rxg7+ Kxg7 2.Rg1+ Kf8 3.Qh6+ Ke7 4.Rg7+, it takes CM9_R1 a
>little over a minute on an AMD 2500 to announce a mate score (Mate in 14).
>Eventually, after 5:33, it realizes that this is a Mate in 11 (and therefore,
>from the initial position, it is a Mate in 15).
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	10.90	1395		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ Kc8
>					7.Nxb4
>0:00	1/4	10.89	5124		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ Kc8
>					7.Nxb4 R4e6 8.Qxh7 Rxe2
>0:00	1/5	15.57	13446		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ Kc8
>					7.Qxb6 R8e7 8.Bxe7
>0:00	1/6	16.05	56634		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Nxb4 Bd6 8.Bxe7 Rxe7 9.Rxe7+
>					Kxe7 10.Qxh7+ Kd8 11.Nxa6
>0:00	1/7	16.05	181587		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Nxb4 Bd6 8.Bxe7 Rxe7 9.Rxe7+
>					Kxe7 10.Qxh7+ Kd8 11.Nxa6
>0:02	1/8	16.10	731259		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Nxb4 Bd6 8.Bxe7 Rxe7 9.Rxe7+
>					Kxe7 10.Nxa6 Kd7 11.Qxh7+ Kc6
>0:07	1/9	18.01	2388364		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Nxb4 Bd6 8.Qh3+ Re6 9.Qf3 Bxb4
>					10.axb4 Rxf7 11.Qxf7+ Kd6 12.Bf4+
>					Kd5 13.Qf5+ Kc6 14.Qxe6+ Kb5
>0:23	1/10	19.55	7720472		4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Qh3+ Kd6 8.Bxe7+ Rxe7 9.Rf6+
>					Kc7 10.Nxb4 h5 11.Nd5+ Kb7 12.Nxe7
>1:08	1/11	Mate14	23881937	4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Qh3+ Kd6 8.Bxe7+ Rxe7 9.Rf6+
>					Kc7 10.Nxb4 Kb7 11.Qg2+ Ka7 12.Nc6+
>					Kb7 13.Nxe7+ Kc7 14.Qc6+ Kd8 15.Rf8+
>					Kxe7 16.Re8+ Kf7 17.Qe6+ Kg7 18.Rg8#
>2:30	1/12	Mate12	55112223	4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Qh3+ Kd6 8.Bxe7+ Rxe7 9.Rf6+
>					Kc7 10.Nxb4 Kb7 11.Qf3+ Re4 12.Qxe4+
>					Kc8 13.Rf8+ Kd7 14.Qd5+ Ke7 15.Rf7+
>					Ke8 16.Qd7#
>5:33	2/13	Mate11	125780273	4...Qf7 5.Bg5+ Kd7 6.Rxf7+ R8e7
>					7.Qh3+ Kd6 8.Bxe7+ Rxe7 9.Rf6+
>					Kc7 10.Nxb4 Kb7 11.Qf3+ Re4 12.Qxe4+
>					Kc8 13.Rf8+ Kd7 14.Re8 Kd6 15.Qc6#
>
>jm

Thanks John....Very Good..!
yes, that is one of the solutions that I found also on my slow
P3-850...

That also proves it is a mate in 15...:-)

Regards
Rob



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