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Subject: Re: Moderation/ the end of "swami" name calling ....

Author: Vikrant Malvankar

Date: 00:40:20 02/04/05

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On February 04, 2005 at 03:28:38, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On February 04, 2005 at 02:56:26, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>The moderators recently received a post from a young man  who made a very
>>convincing argument that we should not allowed CCC members to call another CCC
>>member "swami".
>>
>>The argument is that it was degrading and insulting to those members who come
>>from India.   The question was raised if would we allow other ethnic groups to
>>be simliarly harassed.
>>
>>For example, without going into all the specific examples, would we allow any
>>ethnic group to be harras in a similiar fashion?  The answer is no.   Mitigating
>>this somewhat, we did have a member named "swami" who became infamous for trying
>>to obtain engines illegally.  I believe most of the references were made to
>>those who posted like "swami" and not becauae a member was from India.
>>Nonetheless, new members do not understand the "swami" history and we should
>>stop it.   Our members from India find this "swami" name calling  degrading.
>>Would we allow people to call our members , kraut, nazi, kite, hunky,dago,polak
>>etc.  The answer is no and we should not longer allow "swami" either.
>>
>>So I'm asking everyone to simply stop calling any member "swami" - although I
>>realize the tempation is there, it is simply not the right way for us to treat
>>our fellow CCC Indian members.
>>
>>Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Michael Byrne
>
>I've never used the term, but your post made me curious and I decided to look up
>the term:
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=swami
>
>I see little indication that the term is derogatory. In fact, rather the
>opposite according to the above link. If it is error, how so?


without looking at the above link i can say that "swami" means sadhu or a
spiritual person or a saint in India. The word here was used at a old user but
new members take it as aimed at them(i certainly did and was quite annoyed that
the word was used.).

Again this morning Madhavan and i both were called swami and they thought we r
the same persons nad all this is ridiculous. All I want to say is that u should
not comment on something that u dont have proof against.(U dont have any proof
that i m the old user who used to ask for illegal copies of engines, i never did
that so why u label me "Swami" for no fault of mine's with that name?)



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