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Subject: Re: Reliability and data

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:22:39 02/04/05

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On February 03, 2005 at 18:36:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On February 03, 2005 at 13:57:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 03, 2005 at 13:37:09, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>On February 03, 2005 at 11:47:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nor do you know anyone that said someone did.  That's your lack of reading
>>>>comprehension, not anything else.  who exactly said someone uses "all" of them?
>>>
>>>I have used them all at one point, but just like you I have run out of hard
>>>drive space in my beast. Now all total I use 523.71gb of tablebases when playing
>>>online. I use Hiarcs and Crafty, and I believe those are the only two that
>>>support 6man bases at this time.
>>>
>>>The start up time for each program is considerable. In fact just last night I
>>>saw a position where Hiarcs thought it was up +2.35 then the 6man tbs clicked in
>>>and suddenly it found a mate in 42 moves. I will find the exact game and
>>>position and post it here.
>>>
>>>>>In fact i don't even know anyone who has them all besides you. But well, you
>>>>>don't even know how to back them up seemingly :)
>>>
>>>I have them all. Either on my hard drives, or backed up on DVD. I do have them
>>>all though. Just ask my provider who cried over the bandwidth I used :)
>>>
>>>I downloaded roughly 10.5GB nightly until I had them all. Depending on the ftp's
>>>speed, I seen a high of downloading 38.94GB in one night.
>>>
>>>Peter
>>
>>
>>For the record, crafty takes about 25 seconds to "start up" on my dual xeon,
>>with nearly 600 gigs of "stuff" in the TB folder.  About 500 gigs is on 146gig
>>10K U320 scsi drives, the rest is on 36gig 15K U320 scsi drives.  I have 3x146
>>in raid-0 (striping for performance) and 3x36 in raid-0 as well..
>
>Bob considering all the problems you had in the past, why not use Raid5. It is
>the same READ speed like raid0, it can stripe too, but if a harddrive fails then
>your entire RAID array isn't complete dead.

If you have three drives in a raid-5 array, you lose one to the "parity" data.
My ftp server is raid-5, but I don't want to give up 1/3 of my disk space on my
office box.

>
>Raid5 is pretty safe way to do things...
>
>Note you lose 1 disk with RAID5.
>
>So getting for example a s-ata array of 8 cheap disks of say 300GB offers higher
>reliability than raid0-scsi and is a lot cheaper than those U320 disks.

I am after access time, and bandwidth.  Your sata cheap drives don't offer
either.


>
>READ speed of U320 is of course higher than s-ata ever will get.
>

the point, of course.



>Though a 400 dollar raid card hands down delivers > 400MB there.
>
>Note that there is also raid5 for scsi.


we have raid-5 using the AMI megaraid cards.  In fact, our dell poweredge 2600's
come with on-board scsi that supports raid 0 through 5 in hardware.



>
>>I don't consider that unacceptable...



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