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Subject: Re: Moderation/ the end of "swami" name calling ....

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:23:20 02/04/05

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On February 04, 2005 at 02:56:26, Mike Byrne wrote:

Shouldn't you take such stuff to CTF?

Swami there is the same like calling a german Fritz, or someone from this area
'Diep', as there is 3000 persons in and around this town called Diepeveen.

In about every name from people from that part of India the name 'swami' is
inside.

There is nothing wrong with calling someone who looks like a swami the name
swami.

BTW this is bad PR for your re-election. Right now only Skinner is campaigning
no other is obviously :)

>The moderators recently received a post from a young man  who made a very
>convincing argument that we should not allowed CCC members to call another CCC
>member "swami".
>
>The argument is that it was degrading and insulting to those members who come
>from India.   The question was raised if would we allow other ethnic groups to
>be simliarly harassed.
>
>For example, without going into all the specific examples, would we allow any
>ethnic group to be harras in a similiar fashion?  The answer is no.   Mitigating
>this somewhat, we did have a member named "swami" who became infamous for trying
>to obtain engines illegally.  I believe most of the references were made to
>those who posted like "swami" and not becauae a member was from India.
>Nonetheless, new members do not understand the "swami" history and we should
>stop it.   Our members from India find this "swami" name calling  degrading.
>Would we allow people to call our members , kraut, nazi, kite, hunky,dago,polak
>etc.  The answer is no and we should not longer allow "swami" either.
>
>So I'm asking everyone to simply stop calling any member "swami" - although I
>realize the tempation is there, it is simply not the right way for us to treat
>our fellow CCC Indian members.
>
>Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
>
>Best,
>
>Michael Byrne



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