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Subject: ChessPartner and ICC - Simply unreal

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 07:36:46 02/06/05


In the last few months I have has problems running _any_ Chesspartner engine on
ICC. For some reason the engine just stops playing as it is not being updated by
the interface.

Lex put in a move delay option and no matter what you set it to, the same still
happens. I usually use Gandalf 6, or Shredder 8 in that interface.

I was discussing this on FICS yesterday with someone who had _no_ problems using
CT2004 on FICS and it almost never lost on time. He asked to use my account on
ICC for an evening and I agreed in an experiment. Here are the results:

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2862"]
[Opening "A21 English Opening"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 d6 3. g3 c5 4. d3 { olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2806"]
[Opening "E06 Catalan: Closed, 5.Nf3"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. c4 O-O 6. Nbd2 c5 7. dxc5 Na6 {
olorin forfeits
on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2824"]
[BlackElo "2825"]
[Opening "D02 Queen's Pawn Game, Krause Variation"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 c5 3. c4 Nc6 4. cxd5 { olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2809"]
[BlackElo "2840"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. f3 Qa5+ 5. c3 Nf6 6. d5 Qb6 7. Bc1 e6 8. e4
exd5 9. exd5
d6 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2855"]
[BlackElo "2794"]
[Opening "D43 QGD Semi-Slav"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. cxd5 exd5 7. e3 Be7 8. Bd3
Ne4 9. Bxe4
{ olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2781"]
[BlackElo "2868"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pp1ppppp/8/2p5/3PnB2/5P2/PPP1P1PP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq - 0 0"]

{Somnus forfeits on time Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2848"]
[BlackElo "2801"]
[Opening "B34 Sicilian: Accelerated Fianchetto, Modern Variation"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. f3 { olorin
forfeits on
time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2862"]
[Opening "A45 Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 0"]

{Game aborted because it's too short Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 *

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "2862"]
[Opening "D02 Queen's Pawn Game"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. g3 e6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. b3 c5 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2875"]
[BlackElo "2774"]
[Opening "D43 QGD Semi-Slav"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. cxd5 exd5 7. e3 Be7 8. Bd3
Ne4 9. Bxe4
{ olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2763"]
[BlackElo "2886"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 d5 3. e3 c5 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. Bb5 e6 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2897"]
[BlackElo "2752"]
[Opening "D45 QGD Semi-Slav: 5.e3"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 { olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2742"]
[BlackElo "2907"]
[Opening "A45 Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 0"]

{Game aborted because it's too short Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 *

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2742"]
[BlackElo "2907"]
[Opening "D02 Queen's Pawn Game"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. g3 Bf5 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2916"]
[BlackElo "2733"]
[Opening "D11 QGD Slav: 3.Nf3"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 c6 3. c4 e5 4. dxe5 { olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2725"]
[BlackElo "2924"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/6B1/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq - 2 2"]

{Somnus forfeits on time Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2900"]
[BlackElo "2749"]
[Opening "D41 QGD: Semi-Tarrasch, 5.cd"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 c5 5. cxd5 cxd4 6. Qxd4 exd5 7. Bg5 { olorin
forfeits
on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2740"]
[BlackElo "2909"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 e6 3. e4 h6 4. Bxf6 Qxf6 5. Qd2 d5 { olorin forfeits on time}
0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2918"]
[BlackElo "2731"]
[Opening "D32 QGD: Tarrasch Defense"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Nf3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 Nc6 7. g3 Bb4 8.
Bg2 { olorin
forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2723"]
[BlackElo "2926"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 e6 3. e4 c5 4. d5 d6 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2934"]
[BlackElo "2715"]
[Opening "D02 Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3p4/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq d6 0 0"]

{Somnus forfeits on time Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2740"]
[BlackElo "2909"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 e6 3. e4 c5 4. e5 h6 5. Bc1 Nd5 6. c4 Nb4 { olorin forfeits on
time} 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2918"]
[BlackElo "2731"]
[Opening "D02 Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3p4/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq d6 0 0"]

{Somnus forfeits on time Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 0-1

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2755"]
[BlackElo "2894"]
[Opening "A45 Trompovsky Attack"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/4pn2/6B1/3PP3/8/PPP2PPP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq e3 0 0"]

{Somnus forfeits on time Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "Somnus"]
[Black "olorin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2872"]
[BlackElo "2777"]
[Opening "B35 Sicilian: Accelerated Fianchetto, Modern Variation with Bc4"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8.
Bb3 a5 9. O-O
a4 10. Nxa4 Nxe4 11. Nb5 Ra6 12. c4 { olorin forfeits on time} 1-0

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2005.02.06"]
[Round ""]
[White "olorin"]
[Black "Somnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2765"]
[BlackElo "2884"]
[Opening "D23 QGA: Mannheim Variation"]

{Time control = 6 6 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 dxc4 4. Qa4+ Nc6 { olorin forfeits on time} 0-1

Somnus = Chess Tiger 2004
Olorin = Shredder 8

Not a single game was completed while it was run overnight. All games were flag
losses.

I can run Hiarcs online at ICC for days (in fact I did over the Christmas
holidays) using the Winboard232d adapter and not have a single loss on time,
even in 1 0 games.

Why is there such a problem with the Chesspartner interface? I remember using CT
15 and Shredder 7.04 just fine. With the latest versions though there is an
obvious problem that the patch has not fixed.

Or does anyone have a better solution?

Peter

P.S - This "interface" problem is the only reason that I do not own CT2004. Or I
would. I only purchased Gandalf 6 because you can run it in other interfaces
that have no problems.



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