Author: Andrew Walker
Date: 16:39:14 02/06/05
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On February 05, 2005 at 03:29:03, Joshua Haglund wrote: >On February 04, 2005 at 22:52:42, Andrew Walker wrote: > >>On February 03, 2005 at 23:57:38, Joshua Haglund wrote: >> >>>On February 03, 2005 at 22:18:36, Andrew Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On February 03, 2005 at 22:10:15, Andrew Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 03, 2005 at 21:16:06, Jason Kent wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>@ Playchess.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Play 2649 more games with The King 3.23 SKR. >>>>>>>Play 5000 games with The King 3.33 Milan 1.7a. >>>>>>>Play 2483 more games with The King 3.33 R2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Then these will be added to my list and go against: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Engine Elo Range Avg. ELO RANGE >>>>>>>The King 3.23 R1 2547 2544-2550 >>>>>>>The King 3.33 2535 2520-2550 >>>>>>>The King 3.23 2468 2459-2477 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Joshua Haglund >>>>>>>toneewa@yahoo.com >>>>>> >>>>>>How do you know what setting is being used when it is played online? I usually >>>>>>call my 3.23 settings CM9 "name", and 3.33 settings CMX "personality name". Is >>>>>>the server able to tell exactly what is running? >>>>>> >>>>>>Jason >>>>> >>>>>Note those numbers don't take into account: >>>>>- Computer speed (and if any other tasks are running) >>>>>- Hash size >>>>>- Learning accrued >>>>>- The opening book used >>>>>- If engine parameters have been changed >>>>>- How many if any tablebases are in use >>>>>Make your own judgement! >>>> >>>>Also, older engines will have a far greater proportion of games played on >>>>slower machines. So his numbers are just hot air. >>> >>>That is why there is a ELO RANGE. Not just one rating on one machine, with >>>certain settings, etc. >> >>Still doesn't make sense. I just saw one of your posts claiming +- 20 points >>for Shredder8. The number of machines playing with this engine are going to >>show a far greater range of ELO strength. You have not shown that you can use >>this to compare the strength of two engines, as you are measuring different >>quantities for each one. > >It's very simple. Shredder 8 has +/- 20. It is an ELO Average of all the users >with Shredder 8 with a ELO RANGE +/-. The reason it doesn't have a such a wide >range is because it's consistant between the ELO RANGE. > Does this mean you are taking the uncertainty for each individuals rating and averaging those? Or something else? It would be clearer if you gave an example from just a small number of figures.
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