Author: Ingo Bauer
Date: 03:07:44 02/08/05
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On February 07, 2005 at 21:03:10, Mark Young wrote: >On February 07, 2005 at 17:50:15, Ingo Bauer wrote: > >>On February 07, 2005 at 17:36:53, James C. Logan wrote: >> >>>A quick follow up to my previous post. 21 games at Game/3 minutes (under Arena >>>1.1 however so not using Shredder built opening books), score 13/21 in favor of >>>Shredder 8. Shredder 9 as Black forfeited on time 3 times during this 21 game >>>stretch. >>> >>>Don't laugh about the TC - I did this on an "extended" lunch hour. I know the >>>results have no statistical significance. >> >>Shredder UCI, despite what version, is normaly impossible to forfeit on time! If >>you think that playing Shredder versus Shredder makes sence repeat that under >>the delivered Classic GUI! I saw more than 10000 games played with different UCI >>Shredders and NEVER saw a forfeit on time from Shredder! >>I have to admit that because engine play in a GUI uses time, it makes sence to >>play at least a "+1 second" in whatever GUI (of course + 1/10 of a secoun would >>be enough but that is impossible). >> >>Bye Ingo >> >>PS: I do not think that it makes sence to play Shredder vs. Shredder. Even if >>the "older" version is performing better it is saying nothing about the real >>playing strength of each version! > >I don't know how you can give Shredder 9 a real testing without playing Shredder >8 & Shredder 7.04. Since Shredder 8 and Shredder 7.04 are the two top known >programs. Easy. I played a couple of hundred games with S8 versus the lets say 8 serioust contenders. Then I play the same number of games versus the same contenders with a new Shredder. If the difference between Shredder X and the rest of the field is bigger than between Shredder 8 and the rest of the field the new version is better! Another possibilty would be to collect ALL games and make a rating list with Elostat. >Not to say you will not test Shredder 9 against other program. > >I for one what to know how Shredder 9 will score playing against the top two >programs. Bye Ingo
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