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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 UCI - First Impressions

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:11:17 02/08/05

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On February 07, 2005 at 21:03:10, Mark Young wrote:

>On February 07, 2005 at 17:50:15, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2005 at 17:36:53, James C. Logan wrote:
>>
>>>A quick follow up to my previous post. 21 games at Game/3 minutes (under Arena
>>>1.1 however so not using Shredder built opening books), score 13/21 in favor of
>>>Shredder 8. Shredder 9 as Black forfeited on time 3 times during this 21 game
>>>stretch.
>>>
>>>Don't laugh about the TC - I did this on an "extended" lunch hour. I know the
>>>results have no statistical significance.
>>
>>Shredder UCI, despite what version, is normaly impossible to forfeit on time! If
>>you think that playing Shredder versus Shredder makes sence repeat that under
>>the delivered Classic GUI! I saw more than 10000 games played with different UCI
>>Shredders and NEVER saw a forfeit on time from Shredder!
>>I have to admit that because engine play in a GUI uses time, it makes sence to
>>play at least a  "+1 second" in whatever GUI (of course + 1/10 of a secoun would
>>be enough but that is impossible).
>>
>>Bye Ingo
>>
>>PS: I do not think that it makes sence to play Shredder vs. Shredder. Even if
>>the "older" version is performing better it is saying nothing about the real
>>playing strength of each version!
>
>I don't know how you can give Shredder 9 a real testing without playing Shredder
>8 & Shredder 7.04. Since Shredder 8 and Shredder 7.04 are the two top known
>programs. Not to say you will not test Shredder 9 against other program.

You can give weaker opponents than shredder like fruit faster hardware when they
play against shredder so shredder versions will score near 50% against fruit and
see if shredder9 performs better than Shredder8 or shredder7.04 against fruit.

Uri



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