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Subject: Re: Also not true and people should simply ban chessbase

Author: Manfred Meiler

Date: 05:09:00 02/10/05

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On February 10, 2005 at 07:05:52, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 10, 2005 at 07:03:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2005 at 04:54:45, Manfred Meiler wrote:
>>
>>>On February 10, 2005 at 04:28:41, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 10, 2005 at 04:11:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 09, 2005 at 19:23:04, robert flesher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Also not true because the subscription for playchess is free for a lot of
>>>>>people(Maybe for most of the population of the world)
>>>>>
>>>>>"Players with Internet addresses from Russia and all former GUS countries,
>>>>>Africa, China and the Middle East have free access."
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that people should tell Amir Ban that they will not buy future versions
>>>>>of Junior if he does not sell them not from chessbase like SMK.
>>>>>
>>>>>Experience shows that it only cause problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope that the number of people who buy shredder9 from chessbase will be as
>>>>>small as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>People should buy it only from www.shredderchess.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>

>>>>Wow!!
>>>>
>>>>I would think Amir Ban would be proud of Chessbase because of this. I know I
>>>>would have been because of this nice gesture to 'lowcost' countries.
>>>>
>>>>Odd Gunnar
>>>
>>>

>>>I didn't know about the free Playchess subscription for all these people by
>>>ChessBase.
>>>But I would agree to Odd Gunnar: This is a nice gesture to 'lowcost' countries.
>>>
>>>Calling out on banning ChessBase for this reason seems to be rather strange in
>>>my opinion.
>>>
>>>Manfred

>>
>>I do not call people to ban chessbase because of the fact that they give people
>>who do not buy chessbase products to play in playchess.
>>
>>The problem is that after installing Junior9 I cannot play there from the
>>computer that I installed it.
>>
>>buying chessbase products prevent people to play in playchess(at least if they
>>did the error of installing Junior9 in the same folder) and it is a good reason
>>to ban chessbase because you can never know what is going to be the next demage
>>for customers who pay for chessbase.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I can add that I am from one of the countries that registration is free and I
>did not expect that they prevent me to play only because of installing Junior9.
>
>I think that it is better if Amir learn from stefan and sell future versions of
>Junior not by chessbase.
>
>Uri


What have your problems in playing with Junior 9 at Playchess got to do with the
nice gesture of free Playchess subscription by ChessBase for a lot of people ?
(remember: the original post was about "why the serial number request at
playchess.com?").

I can't take very seriously ban callings by someone who e.g. suspected here
other engine authors of including maybe a virus in their first engine release
download - look at http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=253086
(2 days before release of the first Ruffian freeware version 1.0.0 facing the
great results of Ruffian beta 0.7.6 in those days):

"...I still do not believe that Ruffian is going to be freeware and even in case
that I am wrong I am going to be careful to download it as a freeware without a
source code because I am going to suspect that it includes a virus... I cannot
trust somebody that I know nothing about him and I do not understand
his behaviour."

Did you download Ruffian 1.0.0 then ? :-)

Manfred

PS: I'm able to use Playchess with my Junior 9 without any problems.

PPS: I congratulate Stefan Meyer-Kahlen on selling his Shredder UCI engine +
Shredder Classic gui now exclusively by himself (of course I've got Shredder 9
from www.shredderchess.com).



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