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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 UCI - First Impressions (....the Knowledge-Speed setting)

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 01:44:50 02/11/05

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On February 10, 2005 at 12:33:14, William Penn wrote:

>On February 09, 2005 at 03:57:36, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2005 at 17:04:22, James C. Logan wrote:
>>
>>>In the "infinite analysis" mode under Fritz 8 interface (version 19), as well as
>>>the Chessbase 9 interface (version 5), Shredder 9 seems to get very deep, very
>>>fast. Faster than Shredder 8. I do not look at nodes/sec, only the depth. I have
>>>not found an instance yet where the two programs differ in the suggested top
>>>move, but I am not looking too hard yet. I also have not looked over the PV yet
>>>to see if I like it better than S8.
>>>
>>>As for games, I have tried a quick informal run in Arena 1.1 of Shredder 9 vs.
>>>Shredder 8. Naturally, under this interface, I cannot use Shredder books. I
>>>played 21 games of Game/3 minute and Shredder 8 trounced Shredder 9. I moved the
>>>time control up to Game/5, and a small number of games also went to Shredder 8.
>>>I am now going to try using the Shredder interface - I will do a more controlled
>>>experiment overnight.
>>>
>>>I can say that in all that I have seen, Shredder 8 uses the clock more
>>>effectively than Shredder 9. Maybe that is an unfair statement, but S9 is always
>>>behind on the clock compared to S8, winning or losing.
>>>
>>>These are only first impressions - don't take them too seriously yet.
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your impressions.
>>
>>If you think that Shredder 9 is playing to slow you can set the engine option
>>"Time Usage" to a value < 100. The value is given in percent, so if you set it
>>to 90 Shredder will on average think 10% less for his moves.
>>
>>Stefan
>
>I tried that, and "Time Usage" seems to have no effect in infinite analysis
>mode.


No, infinite minus 10% is still infinite :-)


>Is there any way to speed up infinite analysis? For example, if we
>ordinarily achieve 30 plys in 4 hours, it would be nice to have a setting that
>would go to 30 plys in 1 hour. I understand that it would be more likely to
>overlook important moves, but it could be useful nevertheless. Would changing
>the "Knowledge-Speed" setting achieve this properly? If so, what value would you
>suggest?


I would still suggest to use the default setings for this. However if you would
like to see more plies you try to set

Combinations=None
Forward Pruning=5
Selectivity=0

Stefan



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