Author: Roger D Davis
Date: 16:59:34 02/12/05
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On February 12, 2005 at 17:45:55, Peter Skinner wrote: >On February 12, 2005 at 17:30:49, Rafael Peña wrote: > >>1.- The game vs crafty, both engines says draw (look the position, and score >>from crafty and fafis). > >Here I am not disagreeing with you, but the server states otherwise. > >>3.- Fafis accepted the draw and i Communicated to the chanel 64 on ICC. > >You stated in channel 64 that you had a draw with Crafty. I messaged you and >stated that the game was not drawn, and still ongoing. There is the assumption >that you would have seen the clocks still running unless there was an interface >bug here. > >Whether is was an engine problem or an interface problem doesn't matter. The >server result _is_ what matters. > >>4.- Arena (debug window) and Fafis put in their log draw by mutual agrement. > >Then I am sure this happened due to an interface bug. > >>5.- 10 min later , TD says that Fafis lost on time. > >Yes I informed you of the server result. > > >>Some people said in a bad way that i'll be in a black list for leave the >>tourney, i think, i said in a very polite way to td that i was leaving out the >>tourney, and i made appologies to all people in cct7. > >You won't be black listed for anything. You stated your reasons, made your >apologies to the rest of the participants and I, and left. > >As I stated in my message to you, this was not a personal attack on you, or your >program. I made the decision based on what I saw, what I said, and the server >result. > >Ultimately that is what I have to do. I am the TD, and I have to make the tough >calls, and certainly this was very difficult. > >I asked you politely to stay. I really wanted you to. There are times in sports >where a call will go against you, and you have to grin and bare it. > >I am sorry for all that happened, and I honestly hope I get to talk to you again >Rafael. > >Peter Maybe there was a language issue here, and when the author was asked if the game was drawn, he thought the question was, "Did the engines agree to a draw?", whereas in your mind the question was "Was a draw the final result?" Very important difference, and enough to screw everything up. Even if the author and the TD were fluent in the same language this problem could occur...so I have to wonder whether it might be even more likely where the author and TD have different first languages. Roger
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