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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 - a work of art

Author: Abel Dávalos

Date: 17:08:45 02/12/05

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On February 12, 2005 at 19:47:16, stuart taylor wrote:

>On February 12, 2005 at 18:35:27, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>A couple of years back I stated with absolute certainty that Chess Tiger 12 was
>>the best chess program I'd seen up to then.  And it was, really, notwithstanding
>>the SSDF list where it eventually held spot #1 for a while.
>>
>>Now I can say that Shredder 9 is the best chess program ever.  In my opinion of
>>course, which some of you may well doubt.  But I firmly contend that Shredder 9
>>is a work of art, something that a chess friend of mine called a Chinese piece
>>of art, rounded and perfect.  Congratulations to the author for this primarily
>>labour of love, and not solely of programming perfection.
>>
>>I am amazed at its playing prowess, at its intelligence and, in ultima linea, at
>>its performance against other programs.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Djordje
>
>I am the second here to ask a similar question, as follows.....
>It's nice to hear someone is happy, and it's also well known that many chess
>programs are now really great, in very many ways, much much more than a few
>years ago.
>But how do you compare Shredder 9 to Shredder 8, or to 7.04? or to other top
>programs from the top 10 or so, or even the top 5?
>I am one of a few people here waiting exasperatedly for results to come through
>about Shredder 9. The past over 2 years, there has hardly been a program, which
>clearly outsmarts its recent predescessors, and Shredder 9 is still unclear if
>it does. It appears that it does not CRUSH its closest rivals, but it's still
>possible that it might be slightly a first among equals, slightly "more equal"
>than others. But I don't know.
>Are you answering that question for us? Or are you just comparing it to Tiger
>12?
>S.Taylor


here you go some numbers.
Nunn2 test Shredder 9 vs. Shredder 8
Pentium 4 3.06 Ghz
15 minutes for all the game
Shredder 9 +15 =25 -10

More or less 30 points above of shredder 8, but my impression is that with more
large times shredder 9 will do better.

A. Davalos



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