Author: Christian Koch
Date: 04:14:54 02/13/05
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On February 13, 2005 at 06:46:23, Daniel Shawul wrote:
>On February 13, 2005 at 06:12:44, Christian Koch wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2005 at 05:40:45, Daniel Shawul wrote:
>>
>>>the following position occured in the game b/n DanChess and Yace at cct7
>>>danchess played here c4!?
>>>i am not sure if it really is the best move. Took over 5 minutes to find it with
>>>a clear score (+46).
>>>
>>>
>>>[D]r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/4P1P1/4BP2/PPPQ3P/2KR1B1R w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>DanChess analysiz
>>>13 14 9746 62835077 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. h4 Ne5 3. Nb5 Qc6 4. Qd4 Nbc4 5. Na7 Qd7 6.
>>>Bxc4 Qxd4 7. Rxd4 Rxa7
>>>13 14 12891 83403003 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. h4 Ne5 3. Nb5 Qc6 4. Qd4 Nbc4 5. Na7 Qd7 6.
>>>Bxc4 Qxd4 7. Rxd4 Rxa7
>>>13 60 31055 207412142 1. c4 Ne5 2. c5 Nbd7 3. Be2 Qc7 4. b4 Bxd6 5. Qxd6+ Qxd6
>>>6. Rxd6 Rxa2 7. Re1 Ra1+ 8. Kd2 Ra7
>>>
>>>any other engine choosing c4?
>>>
>>>daniel
>>
>>Hell Daniel,
>>
>>here is the analysis from Shredder 9 UCI:
>>
>>
>>r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/4P1P1/4BP2/PPPQ3P/2KR1B1R w - -
>>
>>Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (384 MB)
>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>>
>>9/19 0:01 -0.11 1.a3 Qc7 2.Bb5 Kg8 3.Bxb6 Nxb6 4.Be8 Bxd6
>> 5.Qxd6 Qb7 6.Bc6 (488.863) 272
>>
>>10/21 0:03 -0.04 1.a3 Qc7 2.Nb5 Qc6 3.Nd6 (857.189) 278
>>
>>11/31 0:08 -0.24 1.a3 Ba6 2.Bf4 Bxf1 (2.285.337) 280
>>
>>11/31 0:08 -0.23++ 1.Kb1 (2.482.904) 280
>>
>>11/31 0:10 -0.09 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ne5 3.Qd4 Nd5 4.exd5 Qxd6
>> 5.dxe6 Qxd4 6.Bxd4 Nxf3 (2.821.255) 279
>>
>>12/25 0:14 -0.08 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ne5 3.Qd4 Nd5 4.exd5 Qxd6
>> 5.dxe6 Qxd4 6.Bxd4 Nxf3 7.Rhf1 (4.109.515) 283
>>
>>13/27 0:25 -0.16 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ba6 3.Bxd7 Nxd7
>> 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.Qxd7 Rhc8 6.Qxc7 Rxc7
>> 7.f4 Bc4 (7.252.302) 286
>>
>>14/31 0:46 -0.15 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Nxc8 Rxc8 3.Ba6 Rb8
>> 4.Qa5 Nc5 5.Be2 Nca4 (13.344.650) 284
>>
>>15/36 1:23 -0.07 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Nxc8 Rxc8 3.Ba6 Rb8
>> 4.Qa5 Bd6 5.Rd3 (23.612.980) 284
>>
>>16/40 3:35 -0.12 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bg5 f6 3.Bf4 e5 (61.041.762) 283
>>
>>best regards,
>>Christian
>
>Thanks Christian.
>DanChess (not cct version) still hangs on c4 after 35 minutes of analysis on
>a slower hardware.
>I think it is not a blunder ,at least from danchess's point of view.
>
>DanChess WB2 29 MB:
> 5 00:00 0.49 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Qb4 Kg8 3. h4
> 6 00:00 0.27 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Qxc8 3. Bb5 Kg8 4. h4
> 7 00:01 0.64 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Qxc8 3. Bb5 Ra7 4. Qg2 Ra8
> 8 00:02 0.67 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Ba6
> 9 00:03 0.48 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Rxd7 Rxa5 6.
>Rxc7 Rxb5 7. Bxb6 Rxb6
>10 00:08 0.48 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Rxd7 Rxa5 6.
>Rxc7 Rxb5 7. Bxb6 Rxb6
>11 00:24 0.39 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. h4 Bc5 4. Bg5 Kg8 5. Bb5 Ne5 6.
>Qc3 Ra8
>12 01:29 0.40 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Bg5 f6 3. Be3 Kg8 4. Nxc8 Qxc8 5. Bb5 Bc5 6.
>Bxc5 Nxc5 7. Qd6 Nca4
>13 03:00 0.27 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Bg5 f6 3. Be3 Kg8 4. Nxc8 Rxc8 5. Bb5 Ne5 6.
>Qf2 Nbc4 7. h4 Ra8
>13 04:11 0.55 1. c4 Qc7 2. b4 Ne5 3. Bc5 Nbd7 4. Nb5 Qd8 5. Bxe7+ Qxe7 6.
>Be2 Kg8 7. c5 Bb7 8. Nd6
>14 06:50 0.43 1. c4 Qc7 2. b4 Ne5 3. Bc5 Nbd7 4. Nb5 Qd8 5. Bxe7+ Qxe7 6.
>Be2 Kg8 7. c5 Bb7 8. Nd6 Bc6
>15 21:19 0.68 1. c4 Ne5 2. Kb1 Qc7 3. c5 Nbd7 4. Qf2 Kg8 5. Bb5 Ba6 6. a4
>Nc6 7. Qg3 Bxb5 8. axb5 Bxd6 9. Qxd6
>16 35:27 0.56 1. c4 Ne5 2. Kb1 Qc7 3. c5 Nbd7 4. Qf2 Kg8 5. h4 Ba6 6. Bxa6
>Rxa6 7. Qe2 Ra8 8. f4 Ng6 9. Nb5
>
>regards
>daniel
Hi Daniel,
here is the analysis from Shredder 9 UCI after 1.c4
r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/2P1P1P1/4BP2/PP1Q3P/2KR1B1R b - -
Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (384 MB)
by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
1/03 0:00 -0.72-- 1...Bxd6 (5) 0
1/07 0:00 -0.76 1...Bxd6 2.Qxd6+ Kg8 3.Bxb6 Qxb6
4.Qxb6 Nxb6 (16) 1
1/07 0:00 +0.16++ 1...Rxa2 (24) 1
1/07 0:00 +1.11++ 1...Rxa2 (30) 1
1/07 0:00 +2.00 1...Rxa2 (36) 2
2/05 0:00 +1.76 1...Rxa2 2.Qc3 (126) 3
3/13 0:00 +1.89 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra8 (695) 21
4/10 0:00 +1.78 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra4 3.b4 (1.538) 32
5/14 0:00 +1.53-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (2.993) 63
5/15 0:00 +1.34 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 (4.764) 75
6/16 0:00 +1.09-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (7.922) 101
6/16 0:00 +1.06 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Qc2 (10.307) 132
7/18 0:00 +0.88 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Ne5
5.Rhf1 (31.308) 199
8/18 0:00 +0.90 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5
5.Bb5 Nb3 (70.292) 236
9/18 0:00 +1.15++ 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (92.767) 237
9/20 0:00 +1.20 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Ne5
5.Qc2 Bd7 6.Rhf1 (119.262) 254
10/21 0:00 +0.95-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (224.670) 271
10/25 0:01 +0.95 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5 (333.093) 280
11/25 0:02 +0.84 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5
5.Bb5 Ra8 6.Qd4 Qxd6 7.Qxd6 Bxd6 (727.068) 283
12/28 0:06 +0.72 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Naxc5
5.Qb4 Ba6 6.Bxc5 Nxc5 7.Nxf7 Nd3
8.Nxd8 Nxb4 (1.917.270) 291
13/26 0:10 +0.47-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (3.135.924) 291
13/33 0:22 -0.03-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (6.330.495) 284
13/33 0:26 -0.29 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na8 4.Bb5 Nb8
5.Qc3 (7.575.994) 288
13/33 0:28 -0.28++ 1...Qc7 (8.131.571) 288
13/33 0:29 +0.07++ 1...Qc7 (8.431.398) 288
13/34 0:38 +0.54 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.b3 Qc6 4.Bg2 Bxc4
5.bxc4 Nxc4 6.Nxc4 Qxc4 7.Bd4 Kg8 (10.916.744) 280
14/30 0:57 +0.64 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Bg5 f6
5.Be3 Nc5 6.Qb4 (15.794.251) 274
15/31 1:18 +0.61 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Bg5 f6
5.Be3 Rd8 6.Qa5 Bxd6 7.Qxa6 Kg8
8.Be2 Nc5 (21.656.932) 276
16/37 2:03 +0.64 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Rd8
5.Qa5 Bxd6 6.Qxa6 Bc5 7.Bg5 Ra8
8.Qb5 Kg8 9.Be2 (34.533.642) 279
17/37 4:04 +0.46 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Kg8
5.b3 Rb8 6.Ka1 f6 7.Be2 Qc6 8.Rhf1 (67.392.211) 275
18/40 7:59 +0.50 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Rb8
5.Nf5 Bc5 6.b4 Kg8 7.Bxc5 Nxc5 8.b5 Nba4
9.Qd6 Qxd6 10.Rxd6 g6 11.Ne7+ Kg7 (133.800.843) 279
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