Author: Daniel Shawul
Date: 04:23:49 02/13/05
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On February 13, 2005 at 07:14:54, Christian Koch wrote: >On February 13, 2005 at 06:46:23, Daniel Shawul wrote: > >>On February 13, 2005 at 06:12:44, Christian Koch wrote: >> >>>On February 13, 2005 at 05:40:45, Daniel Shawul wrote: >>> >>>>the following position occured in the game b/n DanChess and Yace at cct7 >>>>danchess played here c4!? >>>>i am not sure if it really is the best move. Took over 5 minutes to find it with >>>>a clear score (+46). >>>> >>>> >>>>[D]r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/4P1P1/4BP2/PPPQ3P/2KR1B1R w - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>DanChess analysiz >>>>13 14 9746 62835077 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. h4 Ne5 3. Nb5 Qc6 4. Qd4 Nbc4 5. Na7 Qd7 6. >>>>Bxc4 Qxd4 7. Rxd4 Rxa7 >>>>13 14 12891 83403003 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. h4 Ne5 3. Nb5 Qc6 4. Qd4 Nbc4 5. Na7 Qd7 6. >>>>Bxc4 Qxd4 7. Rxd4 Rxa7 >>>>13 60 31055 207412142 1. c4 Ne5 2. c5 Nbd7 3. Be2 Qc7 4. b4 Bxd6 5. Qxd6+ Qxd6 >>>>6. Rxd6 Rxa2 7. Re1 Ra1+ 8. Kd2 Ra7 >>>> >>>>any other engine choosing c4? >>>> >>>>daniel >>> >>>Hell Daniel, >>> >>>here is the analysis from Shredder 9 UCI: >>> >>> >>>r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/4P1P1/4BP2/PPPQ3P/2KR1B1R w - - >>> >>>Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (384 MB) >>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen >>> >>>9/19 0:01 -0.11 1.a3 Qc7 2.Bb5 Kg8 3.Bxb6 Nxb6 4.Be8 Bxd6 >>> 5.Qxd6 Qb7 6.Bc6 (488.863) 272 >>> >>>10/21 0:03 -0.04 1.a3 Qc7 2.Nb5 Qc6 3.Nd6 (857.189) 278 >>> >>>11/31 0:08 -0.24 1.a3 Ba6 2.Bf4 Bxf1 (2.285.337) 280 >>> >>>11/31 0:08 -0.23++ 1.Kb1 (2.482.904) 280 >>> >>>11/31 0:10 -0.09 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ne5 3.Qd4 Nd5 4.exd5 Qxd6 >>> 5.dxe6 Qxd4 6.Bxd4 Nxf3 (2.821.255) 279 >>> >>>12/25 0:14 -0.08 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ne5 3.Qd4 Nd5 4.exd5 Qxd6 >>> 5.dxe6 Qxd4 6.Bxd4 Nxf3 7.Rhf1 (4.109.515) 283 >>> >>>13/27 0:25 -0.16 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bb5 Ba6 3.Bxd7 Nxd7 >>> 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.Qxd7 Rhc8 6.Qxc7 Rxc7 >>> 7.f4 Bc4 (7.252.302) 286 >>> >>>14/31 0:46 -0.15 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Nxc8 Rxc8 3.Ba6 Rb8 >>> 4.Qa5 Nc5 5.Be2 Nca4 (13.344.650) 284 >>> >>>15/36 1:23 -0.07 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Nxc8 Rxc8 3.Ba6 Rb8 >>> 4.Qa5 Bd6 5.Rd3 (23.612.980) 284 >>> >>>16/40 3:35 -0.12 1.Kb1 Qc7 2.Bg5 f6 3.Bf4 e5 (61.041.762) 283 >>> >>>best regards, >>>Christian >> >>Thanks Christian. >>DanChess (not cct version) still hangs on c4 after 35 minutes of analysis on >>a slower hardware. >>I think it is not a blunder ,at least from danchess's point of view. >> >>DanChess WB2 29 MB: >> 5 00:00 0.49 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Qb4 Kg8 3. h4 >> 6 00:00 0.27 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Qxc8 3. Bb5 Kg8 4. h4 >> 7 00:01 0.64 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Qxc8 3. Bb5 Ra7 4. Qg2 Ra8 >> 8 00:02 0.67 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Ba6 >> 9 00:03 0.48 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Rxd7 Rxa5 6. >>Rxc7 Rxb5 7. Bxb6 Rxb6 >>10 00:08 0.48 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. Bb5 Rd8 4. Qa5 Ra8 5. Rxd7 Rxa5 6. >>Rxc7 Rxb5 7. Bxb6 Rxb6 >>11 00:24 0.39 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Nxc8 Rxc8 3. h4 Bc5 4. Bg5 Kg8 5. Bb5 Ne5 6. >>Qc3 Ra8 >>12 01:29 0.40 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Bg5 f6 3. Be3 Kg8 4. Nxc8 Qxc8 5. Bb5 Bc5 6. >>Bxc5 Nxc5 7. Qd6 Nca4 >>13 03:00 0.27 1. Kb1 Qc7 2. Bg5 f6 3. Be3 Kg8 4. Nxc8 Rxc8 5. Bb5 Ne5 6. >>Qf2 Nbc4 7. h4 Ra8 >>13 04:11 0.55 1. c4 Qc7 2. b4 Ne5 3. Bc5 Nbd7 4. Nb5 Qd8 5. Bxe7+ Qxe7 6. >>Be2 Kg8 7. c5 Bb7 8. Nd6 >>14 06:50 0.43 1. c4 Qc7 2. b4 Ne5 3. Bc5 Nbd7 4. Nb5 Qd8 5. Bxe7+ Qxe7 6. >>Be2 Kg8 7. c5 Bb7 8. Nd6 Bc6 >>15 21:19 0.68 1. c4 Ne5 2. Kb1 Qc7 3. c5 Nbd7 4. Qf2 Kg8 5. Bb5 Ba6 6. a4 >>Nc6 7. Qg3 Bxb5 8. axb5 Bxd6 9. Qxd6 >>16 35:27 0.56 1. c4 Ne5 2. Kb1 Qc7 3. c5 Nbd7 4. Qf2 Kg8 5. h4 Ba6 6. Bxa6 >>Rxa6 7. Qe2 Ra8 8. f4 Ng6 9. Nb5 >> >>regards >>daniel > >Hi Daniel, > >here is the analysis from Shredder 9 UCI after 1.c4 > > >r1bq1k1r/3nbppp/1n1Np3/8/2P1P1P1/4BP2/PP1Q3P/2KR1B1R b - - > >Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (384 MB) >by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen > >1/03 0:00 -0.72-- 1...Bxd6 (5) 0 > >1/07 0:00 -0.76 1...Bxd6 2.Qxd6+ Kg8 3.Bxb6 Qxb6 > 4.Qxb6 Nxb6 (16) 1 > >1/07 0:00 +0.16++ 1...Rxa2 (24) 1 > >1/07 0:00 +1.11++ 1...Rxa2 (30) 1 > >1/07 0:00 +2.00 1...Rxa2 (36) 2 > >2/05 0:00 +1.76 1...Rxa2 2.Qc3 (126) 3 > >3/13 0:00 +1.89 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra8 (695) 21 > >4/10 0:00 +1.78 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra4 3.b4 (1.538) 32 > >5/14 0:00 +1.53-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (2.993) 63 > >5/15 0:00 +1.34 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 (4.764) 75 > >6/16 0:00 +1.09-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (7.922) 101 > >6/16 0:00 +1.06 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Qc2 (10.307) 132 > >7/18 0:00 +0.88 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Ne5 > 5.Rhf1 (31.308) 199 > >8/18 0:00 +0.90 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5 > 5.Bb5 Nb3 (70.292) 236 > >9/18 0:00 +1.15++ 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (92.767) 237 > >9/20 0:00 +1.20 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Ne5 > 5.Qc2 Bd7 6.Rhf1 (119.262) 254 > >10/21 0:00 +0.95-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (224.670) 271 > >10/25 0:01 +0.95 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5 (333.093) 280 > >11/25 0:02 +0.84 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.c6 Ndc5 > 5.Bb5 Ra8 6.Qd4 Qxd6 7.Qxd6 Bxd6 (727.068) 283 > >12/28 0:06 +0.72 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na4 4.Bb5 Naxc5 > 5.Qb4 Ba6 6.Bxc5 Nxc5 7.Nxf7 Nd3 > 8.Nxd8 Nxb4 (1.917.270) 291 > >13/26 0:10 +0.47-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (3.135.924) 291 > >13/33 0:22 -0.03-- 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 (6.330.495) 284 > >13/33 0:26 -0.29 1...Rxa2 2.Kb1 Ra7 3.c5 Na8 4.Bb5 Nb8 > 5.Qc3 (7.575.994) 288 > >13/33 0:28 -0.28++ 1...Qc7 (8.131.571) 288 > >13/33 0:29 +0.07++ 1...Qc7 (8.431.398) 288 > >13/34 0:38 +0.54 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.b3 Qc6 4.Bg2 Bxc4 > 5.bxc4 Nxc4 6.Nxc4 Qxc4 7.Bd4 Kg8 (10.916.744) 280 > >14/30 0:57 +0.64 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Bg5 f6 > 5.Be3 Nc5 6.Qb4 (15.794.251) 274 > >15/31 1:18 +0.61 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Bg5 f6 > 5.Be3 Rd8 6.Qa5 Bxd6 7.Qxa6 Kg8 > 8.Be2 Nc5 (21.656.932) 276 > >16/37 2:03 +0.64 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Rd8 > 5.Qa5 Bxd6 6.Qxa6 Bc5 7.Bg5 Ra8 > 8.Qb5 Kg8 9.Be2 (34.533.642) 279 > >17/37 4:04 +0.46 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Kg8 > 5.b3 Rb8 6.Ka1 f6 7.Be2 Qc6 8.Rhf1 (67.392.211) 275 > >18/40 7:59 +0.50 1...Qc7 2.Kb1 Ba6 3.Bf4 e5 4.Be3 Rb8 > 5.Nf5 Bc5 6.b4 Kg8 7.Bxc5 Nxc5 8.b5 Nba4 > 9.Qd6 Qxd6 10.Rxd6 g6 11.Ne7+ Kg7 (133.800.843) 279 That is a helpful analysis. I will do the same with danchess best daniel
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