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Subject: Re: what programm can find the winning conituation?? good test

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 11:26:28 02/13/05

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On February 13, 2005 at 14:17:48, m.d.hurd wrote:

>On February 13, 2005 at 13:33:57, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>I wonder why my Shredder 9 UCI cannot find the winning move???
>>
>>15/15	 0:01 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 (262.482) 177
>> 16/40	 0:07 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 Kg7 3.Ke7 d1Q 4.f8Q+ Kh7 5.Qf5+ Kg7 6.Qf7+
>>Kh8 (1.447.774) 186
>> 17/44	 0:11 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8 6.Qf6+
>>Kh7 7.Qe7+ Kh8 8.Qe8+ Kg7 9.Qe7+ Kh8 10.Qe8+ Kg7 11.Qe7+ Kh8 (3.224.106) 278
>> 18/44	 0:15 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(5.469.679) 344
>> 19/48	 0:24 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(9.838.507) 401
>> 20/49	 0:43 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(19.829.584) 458
>> 21/52	 1:18 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(37.568.890) 478
>> 22/55	 3:01 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(93.787.449) 517
>> 23/56	 5:22 	+0.04 	1.Ke6 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qf7+ Kh8
>>(171.574.927) 531
>
>Hi Jim
>
>I had the same problem in the begining. I had been playing with different
>engines within the classic gui and assummed the hash needed clearing or the
>engine needed reloading, anyway I tried it again and it worked fine.
>
>I just had a thought whilst typing this, could it be learning that allowed it to
>work the second time ?
>

That would be my guess.  I let it run again untill I got this.  Took 26 minutes
this time.  My other computer has been running for over an hour and found g5 at
the 24:41 mark but only +0.05 score.  It has never seen the problem before now.

  1/01	 0:00 	-3.74++	1.Ke6 (1) 0
  1/01	 0:00 	-3.74 	1.Ke6 (2) 0
  2/03	 0:00 	-5.51--	1.Ke6 (10) 2
  2/06	 0:00 	-5.51 	1.Ke6 Kg8 (30) 7
  2/06	 0:00 	-4.36++	1.Kg6 (41) 10
  2/06	 0:00 	-4.36 	1.Kg6 d2 2.f7 (49) 12
  3/06	 0:00 	-4.28 	1.Kg6 Kg8 2.Kxh6 (88) 22
  3/06	 0:00 	-3.43++	1.Ke7 (135) 33
  3/06	 0:00 	-3.15 	1.Ke7 Kh7 2.f7 (158) 39
  4/06	 0:00 	-2.09++	1.Ke7 Kh7 (224) 56
  4/08	 0:00 	-1.42++	1.Ke7 Kh7 (259) 64
  4/08	 0:00 	-0.38 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 (566) 62
  5/10	 0:00 	+0.02++	1.Ke7 d2 (719) 79
  5/11	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (1.001) 111
  6/13	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (2.026) 225
  7/13	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (3.824) 26
  8/17	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (6.474) 31
  9/16	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (10.885) 41
 10/27	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (19.535) 59
 11/22	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (34.504) 87
 12/26	 0:00 	+0.02 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Qf7+
Kh8 7.Qf8+ (57.706) 82
 12/34	 0:00 	+0.03++	1.Ke8 (84.006) 90
 12/34	 0:01 	+0.03 	1.Ke8 d2 2.f7 Kh7 3.f8Q d1Q 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qd7+ Kg6 6.Qf5+
Kg7 7.Qd7+ Kg6 8.Qf5+ Kg7 (93.235) 90
 13/36	 0:01 	+0.02 	1.Ke8 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf5+ Kg7 5.Qe5+ Kh7
(239.984) 140
 13/36	 0:01 	+0.03++	1.Ke7 (268.838) 146
 13/36	 0:02 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qg6 Qe2+ 6.Kd8
Qe3 7.Qf6+ Kh7 8.Qf7+ Kh8 9.Qf8+ Kh7 10.Qf7+ Kh8 11.Qf8+ Kh7 12.Qf7+ (306.207)
147
 14/35	 0:02 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qg6 Qe2+ 6.Kd8
Qe3 7.Qf6+ Kg8 8.Qg6+ (390.161) 142
 15/36	 0:04 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qg6 Qe2+ 6.Kd8
Qe3 7.Qf6+ Kg8 8.Qg6+ Kh8 9.Qf6+ Kg8 10.Qg6+ Kh8 (684.740) 149
 16/38	 0:07 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+
(1.705.606) 237
 17/41	 0:09 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(2.626.489) 287
 18/42	 0:12 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(4.018.932) 325
 19/44	 0:18 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(6.831.687) 379
 20/47	 0:28 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(12.514.484) 432
 21/49	 0:46 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(21.111.454) 457
 22/52	 1:55 	+0.04 	1.Ke7 d2 2.f7 d1Q 3.f8Q+ Kh7 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.g5 Qe1+ 6.Kd7
hxg5 7.Qh5+ Kg7 8.Qxg5+ Kh7 9.Qh5+ Kg7 10.Qg5+ Kh7 11.Qh5+ Kg7 12.Qg5+
(59.861.157) 517
 22/52	 2:02 	+0.05++	1.g5 (62.953.539) 515
 22/52	 2:02 	+0.40++	1.g5 (63.069.027) 515
 22/52	15:15 	+12.47	1.g5 hxg5 2.Ke7 d2 3.f7 d1Q 4.f8Q+ Kh7 5.Qf5+ Kh8 6.Qf6+
Kh7 7.Kf8 Qa1 8.Qxa1 Kg6 9.Qe5 Kh5 10.Kf7 (621.448.048) 678
 23/36	15:16 	+12.47	1.g5 hxg5 2.Ke7 d2 3.f7 d1Q 4.f8Q+ Kh7 5.Qf5+ Kh8 6.Qf6+
Kh7 7.Kf8 Qa1 8.Qxa1 Kg6 9.Qe5 Kh5 10.Kf7 (621.518.621) 678
 24/45	15:20 	+12.72++	1.g5 hxg5 (622.111.588) 675
 24/46	15:21 	+13.22++	1.g5 hxg5 (622.265.799) 675
 24/48	26:25 	  +M15	1.g5 hxg5 2.Ke7 d2 3.f7 Kh7 (1.096.645.522) 691

>Mike



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