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Subject: Re: This was raised.... and I thought addressed...

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 21:53:00 02/13/05

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On February 14, 2005 at 00:49:22, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On February 14, 2005 at 00:43:17, Peter Skinner wrote:
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>>On February 13, 2005 at 23:58:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>The event went pretty smoothly, although I think we need more discussion about >_ZERO_ human intervention.  Zero means ZERO, not almost-zero.
>>
>>This was raised before the tournament.
>>
>>I stated at the very beginning of the event that if someone wanted to manually
>>draw or resign a game, they should come to me, let me look at the game, and if
>>it was reasonable I would allow it.
>>
>>_Many_ people did this by the book. I even declined offers to draw due to
>>material on the board, time remaining, Schroer's comments on the board. As
>>jonnycomp knows, I asked him to play a few games out longer. He accepted my
>>decision, played on, and took whatever result came out of it. Many did. Out of
>>about 180 games, three incidents of not asking first happened. Not bad really. I
>>would have preferred _zero_.
>>
>>I missed the SOS incident, or rather what that was all about. I was busy
>>updating the results and uploading the webpages. There was a complaint made
>>after the next round started, and the pairings were made so I couldn't do
>>anything. In the next round Zappa offered a manual draw, and again there was a
>>complaint about operator interference. Due to me not ruling on the SOS game, and
>>the fact Zappa'a game was indeed a draw I decided that there was no harm done. I
>>did issue a warning.
>>
>>I made it _very_ specific in the last round that if anyone offered a manual draw
>>without coming to me first, I would forfeit the game. Some might have thought I
>>was being harsh, but I was only enforcing the rules that 41 out of 44
>>participants followed by the book.
>>
>>Next year if I am allowed to be the TD, there will be much more strict rules
>>regarding this. The program plays. Not the operator. It is the participant and
>>should make all decisions regarding the game.
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>Make it part of the sign-up agreement form.  Spell it out clearly.  Give
>examples of what's expected of each chess-playing system.  Then, filling out the
>form will be the tacit agreement to those rules, which can be cited in such
>cases as happened, stifling the controversy before it even starts.


The text could also be all caps, like a GPL notice.  It could be a standard
rider in all such events.  All-caps would be like shouting, which might actually
get through some of the thicker programmer skulls.

;)



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>>That is only my opinion though...
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>>Peter



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