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Subject: Re: Standings

Author: Jason Kent

Date: 05:39:06 02/14/05

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On February 14, 2005 at 02:33:41, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On February 13, 2005 at 22:54:27, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2005 at 20:14:21, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2005 at 13:46:25, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>
>>>>THE GREAT CM9000 SHOWDOWN!
>>>>
>>>>Athlon XP1900+
>>>>128mb hash each
>>>>3,4,5 men tablebases
>>>>Ponder on
>>>>No opening books
>>>>34 rounds (2 cycles) at 40 moves in 80 minutes repeating
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Standings after Round 1
>>>>
>>>>1.0	- Mapi
>>>>1.0	- Minotaur
>>>>1.0	- Pillen
>>>>1.0	- Slayer 2b
>>>>0.5	- Alliance
>>>>0.5	- Assassin
>>>>0.5	- Judge
>>>>0.5	- Judge II
>>>>0.5	- Justice
>>>>0.5	- RIX
>>>>0.5	- SKR
>>>>0.5	- Slayer
>>>>0.5	- Surak 8c
>>>>0.5	- TO5
>>>>0.0	- Gladiator
>>>>0.0	- Minotaur 2
>>>>0.0	- R1
>>>>0.0	- R2
>>>
>>>
>>>Can you also include the original CM9000 without personality, for strength
>>>comparison.
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>
>>That was my plan originally, but somebody requested that I include Gladiator, so
>>I left out Default to accommodate this request.
>>Everybody knows that Default doesn't hack it with most or all of these settings,
>>especially at longer time controls on faster machines.
>>Default is included in the 40 moves in 2 hours tournament that I'm running on an
>>old P3 450. Even here it's not faring so well! I'll post the result of that
>>tournament soon (9 settings, 80 rounds).
>>
>>Graham.
>
>
>      This was a wrong decision in my opinion. It could be
>      that default plays comparatively stronger vs internal
>      CM-settings than vs other engines. I remember my earliest
>      tests with CM8k and different settings when default was
>      almost best and eventually stronger than most other settings.
>      Kurt
>      Kurt

I agree with Graham.  Default setting in a word, sucks. :)  Why bother with it?
It has already been tested quite a bit and proven to be inferior.  Gladiator is
the setting he replaced it with.  This tournament needed to include Gladiator in
my mind it is one of the tops.



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