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Subject: Re: Shredder 9CB vs. Shredder 9UCI

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 22:27:29 02/14/05

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On February 15, 2005 at 01:02:21, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On February 14, 2005 at 19:43:36, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
>
>>On February 14, 2005 at 17:34:12, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>With Chessbase programs I get a strong engine, but I am stuck in one interface.
>>>That is exactly what I said. Atleast with that interface I can use the proper
>>>book supplied for it, and I can do many other things.
>>>
>>>What good is an UCI engine outside it's normal interface if it can not use the
>>>supplied book? Nothing.. that was my point.
>>
>>
>>So, daon't buy the UCI engine then. Buy the CB native engine. You will still get
>>the same book by Sandro Necchi, as he is responsible for the Shredder UCI book
>>AND the CB book. The CB Shredder therefore also comes with " a proper book", as
>>it should not be any weaker than the classical book. Same author!
>>
>>When you buy Shredder 9 CB, you will get the same package as if you'd buy Fritz
>>8 or Junior 9: A strong native engine with it's own native CB book, made by a
>>genuine book author just for this engine. I don't see any split oranges.
>>
>>
>>Andreas

Hi Peter,

>
>In the CB version you do not get Sandro's book from the Shredder site.

No, Shredder 7, 8 and 9 CB version do have my opening book.
The only difference with UCI version is that the CB interface allows for 2 book
settings while the UCI has 3.
The CB tournament setting is like the UCI std. so allowing a wider range of
moves to play.
The tournament book setting in UCI allows only moves from a to c and not the d
ones, if available, so only stronger moves and this can be estimated in about
10-15 Elo points. So not that much different.

>
>You get a pre-compiled book from thousands of games, then weighted to suit
>Shredder's style in a general way.
>
>Even with Fritz you do not get Kure's books. Again just a generated book
>weighted towards Fritz's style of play. Same as Junior, Hiarcs, and Tiger when
>it was released as a CB engine.
>
>Sandro's book is very different. It is made with Shredder is mind, and only
>Shredder. It is _much_ better than the CB book. There really is no comparison.
>
>Peter

Sandro




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