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Subject: Re: Most brilliant novelty from cct7 Witchess-Arasan

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 17:09:24 02/15/05

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On February 15, 2005 at 17:43:32, Peter Berger wrote:

>On February 15, 2005 at 15:57:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I think that Crafty did the expected result in WCCC.
>
>Actually you did predict it to the point before the tournament, so I agree with
>you.
>
>The influence of book is just *way* over-estimated by people who had a too low
>expectation of Crafty's potential. There were some games where Crafty's book was
>really fine, mainly against Shredder,Junior, Fritz and Sjeng . But it only got
>1/4 out of them, which means this includes most points lost. And the book
>variation chosen against SOS was bad, this one had been mostly untested due to
>lack of time, and just used based on analysis that didn't turn out to be
>relevant.
>
>I was unhappy with openings against Falcon, Diep and IsiChess, and they clearly
>left a lot to be desired. This time the net result was 3/3 though.
>
>I think Crafty had really bad books in most past WCCs it played in - this time
>it was quite OK, nothing more, nothing less.
>
>I can add further evidence for my assessment : the blitz event where Crafty
>finished 2nd, it played with a completely random ( and I mean it, because a
>screwed up non-working 32-bit one was used) book.
>
>I think people just tend to underestimate Crafty on strong hardware , especially
>several well-known programmers. It was even seeded 8th (!) by ICGA officials
>e.g., and this was not the least bit controversial with programmers present. The
>major reason probably is that under conditions more often used in tests at home,
>it can't compete with the top. I also think that it was indeed a very good and
>well-tested version. Crafty's released versions always goes up and down a bit.
>
>Peter

Well, I have not said anything about underestimating Crafty. Where did you read
that I wrote that? :)

I said that your overall was oustanding in that Tournament and it helped Crafty
a lot. It seems to be that you have the same problem of Uri Blass.

It is sad when you cannot receive compliment.

Well. That is how the majority of this Forum function. I cannot beat that. Now
create other stuff that is not relevant for a compliment. Go ahead!

I wont read this again because I have a lot of work here.

Best wishes, Arturo. :)





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