Author: stuart taylor
Date: 17:33:59 02/15/05
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On February 15, 2005 at 10:39:16, stuart taylor wrote: >On February 15, 2005 at 04:48:23, George C Williams wrote: > >>On February 15, 2005 at 04:18:55, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>On February 15, 2005 at 02:52:17, George C Williams wrote: >>>> I was just identifying the engine version i had, relax uri don't be so >>>>critical, live and let live. Stop nickpickin, your wife (if your even >>>>married)must find you very exhausting lol. This is not a college English class >>>>and your not my professor. >>> >>>what is the sense of testing Pro Deo versus S9 ?? >>> >>>Pro Deo (in default style) was unable to beat S8 ! >>>Now you test against S9 and you also test 40/2 minutes ??? >>> >>>or hours ? >>> >>>if it is minutes you can forget it IMO. >>> >>>Pro Deo needs time to come deep. S9 is faster deep. >>>so it will outsearch Pro Deo heavily. >>> >>>The result will be that S9 wins. >> >> >> >>40 moves in 2 hours OFCOURSE, I wanted to see if Shredder could beat Pro deo >>with vastly inferior hardware. > >When I try to test things, I also like to give the one I'm trying to prove >weaker....more time, so I can feel better about it. >What I have found, however, is that the Shredder Classic which was recently >available for trial download, is NOT much stronger than Arasan 8.2, against >which I've been testing each other. >This is a bit off topic, but It just reminded me of it. >They are anyway not test games which I know how to feed into this forum >mechanically, so I'm not trying to make headlines of it, as I can't compete with >the "computer freaks" here. (at these times) >Anyhow, Arasan is competitively strong, and quite active (anti-human?) in its >moves. >S.Taylor In this game (I had noticed this trend already before), Arasan (White) had 2 pawns up and looked like it was attacking quite strongly on the kingside. Even though Shredder put itself at a minus, now BOTH evaluations evaluate Shredder at a decent plus (both over 50), as Shredder has already regained one of it's pawns and is suddenly attacking Arasan quite well. Shredder can be quite world-champion-like sometimes! It goes down in material with no obvious compensation, and then it suddenly arranges an attack out of the blue. This was just what I wanted in a program! So Shredder 9 must be even better at it. Doesn't matter what anyone says, now, if this is the kind of play coming out of a program, this is REAL uncanny chess (based on positional understanding together with tactics) worthy of study, just as of master art. Computer chess has actually overcome its material greed, and is onto higher things already! Botvinik would have been amazed! S.Taylor
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