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Subject: Re: What constitutes a clone?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:46:29 02/16/05

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On February 16, 2005 at 16:23:06, Dan Honeycutt wrote:

>On February 16, 2005 at 15:44:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2005 at 12:53:25, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 16, 2005 at 11:53:00, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 16, 2005 at 11:37:42, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 16, 2005 at 08:27:51, Charles Roberson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I agree with Uri. Not everything is publicly known.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have some secrets in my new program. When I am done with the research on
>>>>>>  them, I may publish them in a journal. But, until then they are not known.
>>>>>>  I've read all of the related articles in the last 30 years of the ICCA
>>>>>>  journals and there is nothing similar in there. I've also scanned the
>>>>>>  net and found nothing like them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't have any secrets, but if I did I've wondered about the following
>>>>>scenario:
>>>>>
>>>>>I find a new trick that gives my program a nice boost.  I figure with some
>>>>>refinement it may have commercial potential.  I enter it in a tournament.  It is
>>>>>alleged to be a clone.  Rules state, in such case I show my source to some
>>>>>committee established by the tournament organizers.  I fear that if I do so my
>>>>>discovery will no longer remain secret.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do I do?
>>>>
>>>>You knew about that rule prior entering the tournament, right? Nobody forced you
>>>>to play.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure, I knew the rules but that wasn't my question.  I see two choices:
>>>
>>>(1) Refuse to show my source, be disqualified and have the clone cloud hanging
>>>over my head.
>>>
>>>(2) Show my source and risk that my discovery become known with consequent
>>>potential loss of revenue.
>>>
>>>Are you saying that since I entered of my own free will and agreed to the
>>>conditions that my only choice is number 2?
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Dan H.
>>
>>No, he is saying that if you are worried about your "secret" you simply should
>>not have entered in the first place.  No risk of revealing your secret.  No risk
>>of being called a clone either.  No risk at all...
>>
>>
>
>That's true.  No risk.  No reward either.
>
>Dan H.


As I tell my friends who want to play blackjack in a casino, because they know
I'm pretty successful at it, either learn to count cards, or don't play at all.
If you don't count cards you _will_ lose long term.  If you don't want to expose
your secrets, then you will have a problem using the secrets to compete.  Same
sort of problem.



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