Author: Rick Hagen
Date: 23:03:31 02/17/05
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On February 17, 2005 at 17:29:22, Helmut Conrady wrote: >On February 17, 2005 at 16:46:36, George C Williams wrote: > >>On February 17, 2005 at 16:38:28, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On February 17, 2005 at 14:54:40, George C Williams wrote: >>> >>>>On February 17, 2005 at 14:09:47, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>Test: Shredder 9 UCI by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen >>>>>Time control: 40 min/40 moves >>>>>Hardware: Ath 1.3/64 MB hash >>>>>ponder=off, 3-4 men EGTB, Fritz8-GUI >>>>>book=5moves.ctg, normal, no learning >>>>>Details and games download at: >>>>>[http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - >>>>> >>>>> 1 Shredder 9 UCI : 123.0/200 61.5 2460 2541 41 41 >>>>> 2 Junior 9 : 23.0/ 50 46.0 2541 2513 75 96 >>>>> 3 Fritz 8 : 19.5/ 50 39.0 2541 2464 75 88 >>>>> 4 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 18.5/ 50 37.0 2541 2449 76 85 >>>>> 5 Gandalf 6.0 : 16.0/ 50 32.0 2541 2410 101 80 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You know Kurt it would be nice if you would put these statistics in some sort >>>>of context for us, I see these and have no ideal what it means, for instance how >>>>does these results compare to shredder 8? Is Shredder9 Performing better or >>>>worst, ect, >>>> >>>> >>>>thanks >>> >>> >>> Hi George >>> It would indeed be nice to have such a comparison but I don't >>> think that we are going to "replay" all the necessary games >>> with Shredder 8. A small comparison may be our "5moves 2004" >>> tournament, report/games at http://www.utzingerk.com/5moves.htm >>> From your wish I take it that you have some doubts if Shredder 9 >>> is stronger than Shredder 8? >>> Kurt >> >> >> >>Actually I don't know if Shredder9 is stronger or not, I would just like to see >>some evidence to prove that it is. > >Try this link: > >http://www.computerschach.com/rangliste/english/ (button: "eternal list"). > > >Helmut Hi Helmut, The CSS eternal-list is more-or-less a Blitz list. (10+10) I love Fritz 7 as a blitzer, but_no-way_it's stronger at longer timecontrols than Junior 9. As an example: I played Shredder8 vs Fritz7 in the nunn1 match: score about even. (but that was 5+3 not 10+10) Then I replayed the match at regular tournament time control, and S8 crushed Fritz7. My Database (aprox. 15000 games) are almost exclusively bliz-games, and it comes close to the SSDF list, only difference is that strong blitzers (like F7) score better. (I would also guess that F8 Bilbao would do better than F8"old" at longer time-controls..) Rick PS. I agree though that there is no doubt that S9 is stronger than S8, whatever the timecontrol.
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