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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 7 MMX - Hiarcs 6 P90 SSDF game 12 1-0. Now: 9,5 -2,5

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 06:12:20 01/28/99

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On January 28, 1999 at 08:35:56, Thoralf Karlsson wrote:

> >Hmm, ask Bob about the sense in playing program A against the predecessor. I
>>don't see any sense in it too.
>
>Why not? I guess that you mean that the result for a new program version played
>against it's predecessor somehow would differ from the results against all other
>programs. By the way, do you mean that the new version would get a relatively
>better or worse result than against other programs?


That is exactly what we all want to know. :-)
One SHOULD expect a better result, but I think it is problematic. I'd expect
maybe a better result against A but a bit worse against B... :-)

>I doubt that there is a difference. It would be possible to check this by
>temporary deleting results against older versions and see if/how the rating
>changes.

If you'd give me the data and tell me how to calculate I'd do it.

>We try to play all programs against roughly the same opposition. Stopping to
>play against earlier versions of the same program would change this principle.
>Anyhow, since we until now have tested in this way, it would be unwise to
>suddenly change it.

OK, if this is a principle...anyway I'd like to see results left out from
programs playing its predecessor. If it would matter and if so in how far.
Like doubles. They in fact CAN hurt a rating. E.g. take program A play 10 games
vs. B, winning 10-0, losing 0-10 vs C, so overall 10-10. But what happens if one
of the 2 matches is double available, you get 20-10 or 10-20 what is different
than 10-10 without doubles. OK, just a remark, I don't want to start another
doubles-discussion.

>>Why not play H7 against Rebel9 on P90 e.g.?
>
>It has already been played by Tony Hedlund  (14½ - 5½)

I didn't notice nor see that, sorry if it is available somewhere.

>>>PS A new rating list will appear in a few days. New entries are Hiarcs 7 and
>>>Fritz 5.32.
>>
>>Any hints? :-)
>>I guess H7 hitting the top and F5.32 behind, 4 pts >F5.16. :-)
>
>Do you have access to my PC?? :-)

Spiritual. :-)

Seriously, it was just a guess based on what I've seen by now.



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