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Subject: Re: need help in compiling Crafty

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 10:58:27 02/18/05

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On February 18, 2005 at 12:43:20, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On February 18, 2005 at 11:26:26, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2005 at 05:13:02, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>On February 18, 2005 at 04:09:47, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>That does work with VS 2005 - thanks Joshua and Eugene .
>>>>
>>>>Also, PGO really helps a lot with VS 2005.  Increases Crafty NPS by 33% on the
>>>>dual Opteron.  Crafty was about 3M nps, and with PGO and 10% OC, it goes up to
>>>>4M nps.
>>>
>>>Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>Reading through the helpfile there is no mention of PGO compiles with 2005...
>>>
>>>Or well atleast the downloadable version.
>>>
>>>Peter
>>
>>On the CD "pro" version (not the express), the help talks about profiling, the
>>option are different than Intel's PGO option \GL etc. (MS calls it POGO I
>>believe)
>>
>>The "free" CD also has the AMD64 specific processor options, for $9.95 shipping,
>>it is well worth it even if it is a beta.
>>
>>Also, CD is in DVD format and count on 4 gigs for the install.  It takes an hour
>>to load on 1.8 Opteron.
>
>2 remarks:
>
>(1) You mentioned /GL -- that is link-time code genration, not POGO. Did you
>really compiled with POGO, e.g. built instrumented version, trained it, and then
>built optimized one?

Yes, /GL "etc" the etc are all the other required options  - all the messages
rec'd indicated it appeared to work.  In addition, there was huge increase in
NPS , matching the NPS your original crafty 64 exe provided on my machine.

>
>(2) Output that you provided says "System is SMP, not NUMA". When I start Carfty
>of Windows Server on AMD64 it correctly recognizes it as NUMA. I am not sure

I'm running Win XP 64, I think that is the same as Windows Server 64?  I am not
sure.  I'm not sure what the issue is - it could be bios related , although
current bios is dated 4/04 - there appears to be no further update.  I am not
very happy with the MSI motherboard - in hindsight, I strongly recommend Tyan
for the Opteron only for alot of different reasons.  (ask me if anyone needs
more on that)  I see no way to turn on NUMA in the bios.

Eugene,  you have been a tremdous help here and I appreciate all your feedback
immensely.

Thanks,

Michael

who
>is guilty here -- Windows XP or BIOS settings. If later than there should be a
>way to turn NUMA support on.
>
>Thanks,
>Eugene



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