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Subject: Re: Shredder 9 Test (40'/40) After 250 games / 5 matches

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 07:40:20 02/19/05

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On February 19, 2005 at 10:24:19, Jason Kent wrote:

>On February 19, 2005 at 08:14:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 2005 at 08:00:17, Jason Kent wrote:
>>
>>>On February 19, 2005 at 04:52:20, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Test: Shredder 9 UCI by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>>>>Time control: 40 min/40 moves
>>>>Hardware: Ath 1.3/64 MB hash
>>>>ponder=off, 3-4 men EGTB, Fritz8-GUI
>>>>book=5moves.ctg, normal, no learning
>>>>Details and games download at:
>>>>[http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>>>
>>>>  1 Shredder 9 UCI                 : 152.0/250  60.8   2462   2538   37  35
>>>>  2 Junior 9                       :  23.0/ 50  46.0   2539   2511   75  96
>>>>  3 Hiarcs 9                       :  21.0/ 50  42.0   2539   2483   66  91
>>>>  4 Fritz 8                        :  19.5/ 50  39.0   2539   2461   75  88
>>>>  5 Chess Tiger 15.0               :  18.5/ 50  37.0   2539   2446   76  85
>>>>  6 Gandalf 6.0                    :  16.0/ 50  32.0   2539   2408  101  80
>>>>
>>>>No engine seems to be able to stop Shredder 9 UCI.
>>>>
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you mind testing a strong TheKing 3.33 setting here against S9 UCI instead of
>>>the older TO5?    I'm sure that the T05 will provide better statistical results,
>>>but will you be using it much longer?
>>>
>>>Jason
>>
>>
>>      Hi Jason
>>      After having tested CM10k default at 40'/40 time control
>>      to be seen at http://www.utzingerk.com/cm10k.htm, we have
>>      in priniciple (for the reasons posted here earlier) no
>>      intention whatsowever to further test The King 3.33 with
>>      special settings. BTW: Do CM10k-settings exist which are
>>      stronger than the best CM9k-settngs and which have been
>>      thoroughly tested at reasonable time controls over a
>>      sufficient number of games (400-600)? I know nothing
>>      about such a setting -:) as I have so far seen the usual
>>      blitz games only.
>>      Kurt
>
>I was aware that you didn't want to create 3.33 settings, but what if someone
>else creates a good one?  I know Graham has been testing some 3.33 settings at
>long time controls, and I have been also testing long time controls recently.  I
>don't think we have 400-600 games yet, but if we show you the games, would you
>test it?
>
>Jason

      Hello Jason
      If you have a good CM10k-setting and at least 300-400 games
      (6-8 matches at 50 games vs different very strong other
      engines - of course no CM-settings) I might be prepared
      to go for a longer test. Only on the basis of some good
      games I would never "waste" my time with The King 3.33 -:)
      Kurt



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