Author: Howard Exner
Date: 09:24:59 01/28/99
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On January 28, 1999 at 10:04:36, Harald Faber wrote: >On January 28, 1999 at 09:13:00, Howard Exner wrote: > >>>Try out shuffle-chess against Hiarcs e.g. and you'll see it overplays you in a >>>nice way. :-) >> >>They beat me consistently in normal chess already. I think in shuffle chess >>I would even do worse. All the familiar patterns for me would be gone. >>The computer on the other hand would just blissfully go about its >>calculating business. > >It is not only calculating... > >> What is the consensus on humans vs computers >>in shuffle chess? Would an IM for example have a better chance in regular >>or shuffle chess? Any data out there or opinions expressed by those who >>play shuffle chess? > >For IMs and GMs it should be easier to win because programs depend a lot on >their opening books. Look what they play withoug opening book. For us patzers >strong enough but masters know what and why they play... As we have moved away from the original topic I hope you don't mind that I changed the thread name. My way of thinking about humans vs computers at shuffle chess is different. Both are stripped of opening knowledge but who will be more at home in the chaos of the shuffle chess position? I liken it to composed problems. Computers treat these complex, weird looking positions no differently than they do other more familiar positions as those found in regular play. Humans on the other hand find such positions disorienting. For humans our strength in chess is to a larger degree dependent on pattern recognition and familiar themes. Computers while also having chess knowledge are known more for their number crunching skills.Therefore I think humans may suffer more from the chaotic shuffle chess opening position. I'm not sure how popular this form of chess is for IM's but if anyone has some games to share I'd be interested.
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