Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 14:39:00 02/19/05
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On February 19, 2005 at 17:26:09, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 19, 2005 at 15:53:17, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On February 19, 2005 at 13:27:28, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On February 19, 2005 at 11:07:44, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>> >>>>On February 18, 2005 at 14:49:17, Dan Honeycutt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 18, 2005 at 10:26:15, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>[snip] >>>>>> >>>>>>Again the question: If you are not playing to win, why do you spend time >>>>>>participating in Tournaments? This is really funny: To participate in a >>>>>>Tournament and planning to be the last place of it. :))))) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Hi Arturo: >>>>> >>>>>I know you hold a certain animosity toward Uri. He gets on my nerves at times >>>>>as well. But your rush to ridicule everything he says can make you blind. Many >>>>>of us amateurs do this as a hobby for fun. Sure, it's nice to see your engine >>>>>do well, but winning is not the most important thing. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Well, if you do it for fun as I do it. It is great! I have not earned any money >>>>from computer chess. I dont need that. I just do it for fun too. >>>> >>>>However, if you participated in a Tournament, you would enjoy winning. The >>>>excuses "I was not going to participate but I was requested to do it or I >>>>participated but I did not plan to win" are just weird. >>>> >>>>What I do is to ignore the messages of Mr. Blass. However, the edge of my >>>>patience is over with all the nonsense said. Of course, I can live without >>>>reading this Forum. Nevertheless, this week was a bit different. >>>> >>>>regards, Arturo. >>>> >>>>Best wishes for you, your spanish and your engine Bruja. (y) >>> >>>I do not understand the fun of working on book. >>>I can understand that it may give points but for me this job seem boring and >>>improving the engine is more interesting. >>> >> >>I dont understand the fun of doing an engine that participates in Tournaments to >>loose. For you, it is boring but the same work is done when you pratice the live >>chess. You must study all the game phases and you must be prepared against your >>opponents. For _Arturo Ochoa_ and other people is a fun astivity as well as >>intestering to understand the game style of an engine after the opening phase. >>For _Uri Blass, it is demanding, boring and useless. The time has said who is >>not in the right way.... > >I do not say that it is useless and I agree that it can help engines to win a >tournaments if the engines are strong enough. > >The point is that if you think not about the near future it seems that >the work about opening book is not important because the opening book will have >irrelevant stuff like avoiding the french defence if the engine does not know to >play it well when future version of the same engine will not need it. > > >> >> >>>I think that I may decide to learn from tord and not to participate in >>>tournaments(at least not in the near future) >> >>Up to you. Just other games and sports, if you participate in a competition is >>to try to win, not to loose. > >In that case what is the reason that other engines including zappa played in >previous tournaments without book. > >I remember that when zappa first played in CCT is played without book and I am >sure anatony knew at that time that he has no chances to win the tournament. > >> >> >>> >>>It is also possible that I will leave computer chess >>>No promise that I will have time for it. >> >>Well, despite of all my personal activities and I find quite fun my activities >>in computer chess. >> >> >>> >>>People say that is simply not useful and there is nor much money in it. >>>The fact that SMK was able to reply my email in the same day very fast(nothing >>>against him and it is of course very nice by him) tell me that he probably has >>>not many customers. >> >>I think this is tenth time that I have repeated this: I do this for fun and I >>have never done this for money. I have a good work in my country not related to >>computer chess. >> >>I dont know how many customers could have a specifi author. I suppose this is a >>classified information. I would never reveal my target freely for my >>competitors. I think he wont reveal such a classified information. >> >>AO. > >Yes >I guess that I will not get an answer so I even did not ask it. > >I also develop the engine for fun and I guess that I will not be able to make >money from it. > >The point is that I am not sure if I will have time in the future to work much >about improving the engine. > >I have also other things that I like to do for fun and developing movei is not >the only thing that I do when I guess that I will not be able to make money of >it. > >Uri
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