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Subject: Re: Has others seen this type of speed/rating increase?

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 12:06:17 01/28/99

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It's interesting to note that you came to exactly the same result as SSDF did
many years ago... I rember us talking about that as early as in the mid 80's I
think.
Probably that will not hold forever because of the fact that the gain of deeper
search is decreased the deeper the search is. And in fact that is what your
result really imply! The speed diffence between Pentium 90 and 200MMX is far
more than double.

Here is a clip from the SSDF FAQ
http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-36794/ssdf/ssdf-faq.htm

Q: How important is speed?

A: If you double the clock speed, you gain about 70 points. That was true ten
years ago, when we evaluated Constellation, Plymate and others at different
speeds, and it still seems to be true in 1998 when we run PC programs that have
a much higher playing strength. Some say that it varies between different
machines or programmers, that some programs gain more and others less from an
increase in speed, but that has never been proved. You will certainly find
differences if you compare all programs we have tested at different clock
frequencies, but such differences could well be attributed to statistical
inaccuracies.

//Peter


On January 28, 1999 at 12:07:44, KarinsDad wrote:

>I've noticed a rating increase from the Pentium 90 MHz to the P200 MMX (as
>expected). This implies that a doubling of the speed (plus bus improvements,
>minus hash table changes, etc.) results in approximately 70 points in increased
>rating as per the derived chart below (these being based on a x2.2).
>
>Inc. Program
>87   Hiarcs 6.0
>82   Rebel 9.0
>70   Rebel 8.0
>91   MChess Pro 6.0
>69   Genius 5.0 DOS
>
>Does anyone have a more detailed list of this type of information?
>
>How do the non-commercial programs fair in this regard?
>
>Is there any sort of curve associated with this from previous years (i.e. is the
>rate of this increase decreasing from previous years/earlier processors, or is
>the rate of increase remaining somewhat constant)?
>
>Has anyone done any work in increasing the time per move in order to emulate
>future processor types?
>
>Robert Hyatt has mentioned in a earlier post that on his quad, Crafty is running
>at approximate 1600 Mhz equivalence. Does this mean that Crafty run there is
>about 210 points higher (8x faster = 2^3 or 3x rating point increase) in rating
>strength than Crafty running on a P200 MMX? Or is the rating difference
>considerably less than that?
>
>Thanks
>
>KarinsDad



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