Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:25:53 02/20/05
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On February 20, 2005 at 20:20:43, Mark Young wrote: >On February 20, 2005 at 18:24:57, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On February 20, 2005 at 17:44:46, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On February 20, 2005 at 17:14:12, walt irvin wrote: >>> >>>>i have tested shredder 9 for about 3 days now. at first i tested it on a 600 mhz >>>>athlon . on that it did ok but did not dominate ,fritz 6 ,8 ,dfritz 7 gave it >>>>some problems as did ruffian and chess tiger 14 . but today i try it on my 2.1 >>>>ghz athlon and im surprised at the result... it seems shredder gets alot more >>>>out of the increse speed than fritz or tiger ,,, >>> >>>I have seen this also. When you let Shredder 9 go deep. Shredder 9 will dominate >>>the other programs. >> >>If that's the case, I couldn't ask for more! >> >>Even in five to ten years from now, when there might be quicker software, >>Shredder 9 might still be near the top. >> >>So what happens if you make a tournament at 10 hours each player per game, on >>the above 2Ghz. hardware? Will Shredder 9 avoid almost any losses? If so, >>that'swhat I've been waiting for a long time. >>S.Taylor > > >Shredder 9 plays at a very high level....but you have to understand that chess >is very deep and wide. Programs are a very long way from perfect play outside of >6 man TB. > >My guess would be Shredder 9 would be crushed in 5 to 10 years. Like Fritz 5.32 >is crushed by Shredder 9 today. I find that very hard to believe. It's not all that easy to explain why. But It seems that it's much more difficult today to push chess level as quickly as it used to be done, because it's a much greater job to do so. MOST of chess, I think, has been solved. Let's say, about nine tenths of it. But the last tenth contains everything which has not yet been solved, which is a huge amount. I mean, that's my thought! (I mean, perhaps as a rough estimate, computer chess might have solved eight tenths, and human chess, about nine tenths, except that machines are much more faultless, so they score about (almost) equally to the top humans. And the last tenth is still left. And for computers, the last two tenths). S.Taylor
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