Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:31:49 01/28/99
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On January 28, 1999 at 23:01:31, Steven Schwartz wrote: >On January 28, 1999 at 20:32:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 28, 1999 at 17:27:21, Steven Schwartz wrote: >> >>>In our attempt to make up for lost time, >>>we have just put up EIGHT new poll questions! >>> >>>Please click on the link to the "Computer Chess >>>Resource Center" at the top or bottom of this >>>page and place your votes. >>> >>>The latest SSDF results are also on the WCCR >>>in the Resource Center. >>> >>>- Steve (ICD/Your Move) >> >> >>The 'deep blue' question is really a bad one. The idea just doesn't make >>a lot of sense. IE if I took a word processor, made in work on my blender, >>would I have a better automobile would make just as much sense. >> >>DB is _not_ "just a fast machine that a program can run on."It _is_ a silicon >>embodiment of what the DB guys think a chess computer ought to be. _if_ you >>could take a commercial engine and modify it to work on their hardware, do you >>know what you would have? Easy answer: "Deep Blue". Because you would have to >>do things exactly as they do things. Evaluate the same things, use the same >>kind of search, the same data structures to fit the hardware... >> >>ie it is a silly question... > >We'll add it to our list of silly questions:-)) >Would it have been phrased better if we said,"If you took the best >commercial program and run it at the relative speed of Deep Blue, would >it be stronger or weaker than Deep Blue is now?"? >- Steve (ICD/Your Move) even that won't quite do... NPS is not NPS here. IE the best answer no matter what is that you would just get 'deep blue'. Their eval is all hardware. to run at their speed would need their hardware, or else some truly remarkable cpu speeds. IE they do 200M nodes per sec minimum. Commercial programs are roughly 200K nodes per sec today. That is a factor of 1,000. When you factor in what they do in their eval in parallel, we need another factor of 10 to make up that difference. _then_ we could compare. But a factor of 10,000 isn't coming for a _long_ time, unfortunately... :(
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