Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:45:05 02/22/05
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On February 23, 2005 at 01:19:18, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On February 22, 2005 at 21:12:16, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On February 22, 2005 at 18:54:06, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>Maybe Shredder 9 will not score better than Shredder 7.04 in the match against >>>Junior 9, but it will win...the problem are the statistics: >>> >>>the statistics are based on human games and do have mostly a negative effect as >>>they tend to give a preference to the moves which did well to be played first >>>and playing the alternatives later...normally the program will do better with >>>the alternatives and therefore scoring better in the middle and end part of the >>>match... >>> >>>I normally use statistics off... >>> >>>Sandro >> >>I didn't understand. Is this an explanation how it is that Shredder 7.04 is >>doing that much better, without it meaning it has something in it which is >>superior to something which is in Shredder 9? >>S.Taylor > >First of all you are comparing a final match score against part of the match >score. > >I am telling you why Shredder 9 may have not a very good start. > >Shredder 7.04 was lucky to have found a weakness in Junior 9. > >Shredder 9 may will too or not. I did not tested against it so I do not know. >I only know that will win. > >You are wrong in making conclusions in one match only... > >How do you explain than Shredder 7.04 is loosing against Shredder 9? > >Shredder 9 is the strongest Shredder and is about 30 points stronger than >Shredder 8 as people found out here too. >I say about because I am not interested in finding out exactly. I am already >working on Shredder 10... > >Shredder 7.04 is weaker than Shredder 8, running in the same GUI. > >Sandro fair comparison gives 7.5-6.5 for Junior9 against Shredder9 after 14 games 9-5 for shredder7.04 against Junior9 after 14 games 9-5 is worse than 27.5-12.5 so it seems that learning helped Shredder7.04 to score better later in the match Uri
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