Author: George Tsavdaris
Date: 03:06:36 02/24/05
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On February 24, 2005 at 05:56:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>On February 24, 2005 at 05:48:34, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2005 at 05:44:33, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>Next moves:
>>>
>>>[Event "IPCCC Paderborn"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "2005.02.24"]
>>>[Round "3"]
>>>[White "Shredder"]
>>>[Black "Hydra"]
>>>[Result "*"]
>>>[PlyCount "90"]
>>>
>>>{(Time control is 2 hours each for the whole game)} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4
>>>cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Bd3 Nf6 6. O-O Qc7 7. Qe2 d6 8. c4 g6 9. Nc3 Bg7 10. Rd1 O-O
>>>11. Nf3 Nc6 12. h3 Nd7 13. Be3 Nde5 14. Rac1 Nxf3+ 15. Qxf3 Rb8 16. Bf1 f5 17.
>>>Qg3 Be5 18. Bf4 Bxf4 19. Qxf4 e5 20. Qd2 Rd8 21. Qg5 Kg7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23. Qe3
>>>Rbc8 24. a3 Qf7 25. g4 Be6 26. b4 Qe7 27. Nd5 Bxd5 28. Rxd5 Qf6 29. g5 Qe6 30.
>>>Bg2 Ne7 31. Rd3 Nf5 32. Qe4 Qe7 33. Qxb7 Rc7 34. Qb6 Rdc8 35. Rdc3 Qxg5 36. Kh1
>>>Rd7 37. Qxa6 Rf8 38. Qc6 Rdf7 39. Rd1 Ne7 40. Qb7 Rxf2 41. c5 d5 42. Rg1 $8
>>>R8f7 43. b5 Qd2 44. Rf3 $8 R2xf3 45. Bxf3 Qe3 *
>>>
>>>-3 (Dj9 on playchess.com)
>>
>> Hydra will win, but that doesn't prove much of course. I really would not like
>>to hear Hydra is the best, Shredder is behind it,...etc. Perhaps Hydra is better
>>perhaps not. We can't know if they don't play between them 20+ games........
>
>I think that the more interesting question is if shredder9 can produce 40.Qb7?
>
>I am afraid that hydra has some ability to hypnotize shredder so shredder play
>weaker than the commercial version.
>
>Shredder9 shows 40.Qd7 and still a positive score of 0.17 at depth 20.
>
One thing is that perhaps Shredder at the tournament have seen further than 20
plies.....Another thing is that perhaps SMK is using another version of Shredder
(a slightly changed version).........
I don't have Shredder 9 so i can't test furhter from 20 ply.
One important thing is with the amazing hardware power of Hydra, matches like
this, in my opinion, are not fair at all......
I don't say that the result is not fair, but the conclusion are not, since
simply we can't compare Shredder as a programmed entity, with Hydra as
programmed entity. Hardware difference makes the difference.......!
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