Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:32:44 02/24/05
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On February 24, 2005 at 06:09:12, George Tsavdaris wrote: >To correct some stupid mistakes..... > >>>> >>>> Hydra will win, but that doesn't prove much of course. I really would not like >>>>to hear Hydra is the best, Shredder is behind it,...etc. Perhaps Hydra is better >>>>perhaps not. We can't know if they don't play between them 20+ games........ >>> >>>I think that the more interesting question is if shredder9 can produce 40.Qb7? >>> >>>I am afraid that hydra has some ability to hypnotize shredder so shredder play >>>weaker than the commercial version. >>> >>>Shredder9 shows 40.Qd7 and still a positive score of 0.17 at depth 20. >>> > >One thing is that perhaps Shredder at the tournament have seen further than 20 >plies.....Another thing is that perhaps SMK is using another version of Shredder >9 (a slightly changed version)......... > >I don't have Shredder 9 so i can't test furhter from 20 ply. > > One important thing is with the amazing hardware power of Hydra, matches like >this, in my opinion, are not fair at all...... > I don't say that the result is not fair, but the conclusions are not, since >simply we can't compare Shredder as a programmed entity, with Hydra as a >programmed entity. Hardware differences makes the difference.......! I disagree. I think that it is impossible to compare hardware unless other programs can use hydra hardware and run faster then they run in Shredder's hardware. The difference between hydra and shredder is not only hardware but also software that enable hydra to use the hardware. I also think that hardware is overestimated and shredder in the past won tournaments with inferior hardware. score for 40.Qd7 after almost an hour of search on A3000 is now 0.15/21 for white. It seems that the problem of Shredder is 40.Qb7 and not hardware. Uri
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