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Subject: Re: Is Hydra "the strongest chess entity in the world"?

Author: Zheng Zhixian

Date: 09:44:19 02/25/05

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On February 25, 2005 at 10:58:36, Roger D Davis wrote:

>On February 25, 2005 at 06:26:37, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On February 25, 2005 at 06:16:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 25, 2005 at 02:16:34, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:43:26, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:34:47, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 17:42:33, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 13:56:22, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This statement at the tournament site is interesting.  Is it really stronger
>>>>>>>>than even the strongest humans?  What about postal chess?
>>>>>>>>Just asking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just think how many games Kasparov or Anand would have to play versus Hydra in
>>>>>>>order for the result to be statistically significant...it would have to be some
>>>>>>>absurd number. And you couldn't make a definitive statement without a
>>>>>>>statistically significant difference. Yet, as far as I know, neither Kasparov or
>>>>>>>Anand has played Hydra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I don't know how many games it would take to be statistically siginificant
>>>>>>but if a program could beat either Kasparov/Anand by say 4-0 or maybe 5-1 I
>>>>>>personally would be convinced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There would, however, be any number of excuses. Moreover, as you might remember,
>>>>>Kaspy was down like 6-0 in his first match against Karpov, and came back to win.
>>>>>But a 4-0 win which definitely raise confidence in Hydra, and set the stage for
>>>>>a big money rematch.
>>>>>
>>>>>Roger
>>>>
>>>>Kasparov did not come back to win his match against Karpov. The match was
>>>>stopped by fide. Kasparov won the next match.
>>>>Regards
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>kasparov won 3 games in the match and the match was stopped because karpov
>>>wanted to stop it.
>>>
>>>It is clear that karpov felt that he simply cannot win that match(otherwise he
>>>could continue the match).
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I think you got this wrong. If my memory don't try to fool me, both players
>>wanted to continue but the arbiter stoped the match (health problem by Karpov).
>>It was said this was an advantage for Karpov but anyhow he wanted to continue.
>>
>>Odd Gunnar
>
>You wouldn't expect Karpov to say publically, "Hey, thanks for stopping the
>match, it was looking pretty bad for me there."

Yes, except I recall reading in a book by Kasparov himself that Karpov was also
opposed to ending the match. I dont see why Kasparov would want to claim that,
unless it was true.

Unless, BOTH of them wanted the match stopped, but didnt want it to be known :)









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