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Subject: Re: Is Hydra "the strongest chess entity in the world"?

Author: Roger D Davis

Date: 10:11:35 02/25/05

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On February 25, 2005 at 12:44:19, Zheng Zhixian wrote:

>On February 25, 2005 at 10:58:36, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>On February 25, 2005 at 06:26:37, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>
>>>On February 25, 2005 at 06:16:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 02:16:34, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:43:26, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:34:47, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 17:42:33, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 13:56:22, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This statement at the tournament site is interesting.  Is it really stronger
>>>>>>>>>than even the strongest humans?  What about postal chess?
>>>>>>>>>Just asking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just think how many games Kasparov or Anand would have to play versus Hydra in
>>>>>>>>order for the result to be statistically significant...it would have to be some
>>>>>>>>absurd number. And you couldn't make a definitive statement without a
>>>>>>>>statistically significant difference. Yet, as far as I know, neither Kasparov or
>>>>>>>>Anand has played Hydra.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well I don't know how many games it would take to be statistically siginificant
>>>>>>>but if a program could beat either Kasparov/Anand by say 4-0 or maybe 5-1 I
>>>>>>>personally would be convinced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There would, however, be any number of excuses. Moreover, as you might remember,
>>>>>>Kaspy was down like 6-0 in his first match against Karpov, and came back to win.
>>>>>>But a 4-0 win which definitely raise confidence in Hydra, and set the stage for
>>>>>>a big money rematch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Roger
>>>>>
>>>>>Kasparov did not come back to win his match against Karpov. The match was
>>>>>stopped by fide. Kasparov won the next match.
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>kasparov won 3 games in the match and the match was stopped because karpov
>>>>wanted to stop it.
>>>>
>>>>It is clear that karpov felt that he simply cannot win that match(otherwise he
>>>>could continue the match).
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I think you got this wrong. If my memory don't try to fool me, both players
>>>wanted to continue but the arbiter stoped the match (health problem by Karpov).
>>>It was said this was an advantage for Karpov but anyhow he wanted to continue.
>>>
>>>Odd Gunnar
>>
>>You wouldn't expect Karpov to say publically, "Hey, thanks for stopping the
>>match, it was looking pretty bad for me there."
>
>Yes, except I recall reading in a book by Kasparov himself that Karpov was also
>opposed to ending the match. I dont see why Kasparov would want to claim that,
>unless it was true.
>
>Unless, BOTH of them wanted the match stopped, but didnt want it to be known :)

It was certainly a strange turn of events. I guess we'll never know exactly what
happened, and why.



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