Author: Peter Skinner
Date: 09:10:33 02/26/05
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On February 26, 2005 at 10:42:25, Charles Roberson wrote: > >I know a few nonprogrammers that might enter this one. >Its a fairly interesting idea. So, I am going to try to >be positive on this and look at it in the how can this >be made good/great as opposed to what's wrong with it. >Long term, it could become something really nice. > >It has attractiveness for the humans because they are >in a different payout category. There is less attractiveness >for the computer entrants because there is only 2 divisions >and 1 prize per division. So, how you state the "current" payout >and the "potential payout" is important. Would something like this be better? Prizes: (Subject to change based on participation) $600 for first place GM/IM/FM $200 for second place GM/IM/FM $200 for third place GM/IM/FM $250 for first place commercial computer entrant $150 for second place commercial computer entrant $100 for third place commercial computer entrant $250 for first place amateur computer entrant $125 for second place commercial computer entrant $125 for third place commercial computer entrant > >Also, you might try stating the prize fund the way it is stated in >human tournaments to attract more humans. What if you have humans >enter, but no masters -- are you going to pay the best human? Only GM/IM/FM players are allowed to participate. They must be listed on FIDE.com, and have the proper titled account on ICC. >It is good to state that X% (maybe 100%) of the entry fees go >to the prize fund. However, I do not mind (especially for large >tournaments) a small percentage going to the TD. Seems to me if >there are 200 entries the TD should get 2% of the fund for his >efforts. Maybe more -- in the US, we typically give more than that >to a waiter/waitress. This was suggested. I would prefer to give a special $50 prize for "Game of the Day", or a voted poll on the best game of the tournament. > > There may be more than the normal CCT headeaches in this type of > event due to the entry of humans and a prize payout and allowing > multiple copies of anything. But, this could become something really > neat over time. > >A typical human (non-internet) tournament will say the prize fund is >guaranteed based on X entrants. I'm guessing you are basing this >tournament on 50 entrants. This allows people to know upfront if the >prize fund will get bigger. They know this at a normal tournament >by just looking around on the day of the tournament. Here it could >be noticed ahead of time. As registration is increased past the >minimum, the prize fund increases (maybe even more awards added >say second place amateur and commercial computer)... As people >see this increase it may attract more people and snowball it to >something much bigger. The prize payout is subject to registration. In the event we only get 4-10 people involved, we will still run, but the payout will be structured differently. >Here is a piece of a typical advertisment: >o $X prize fund based on N entries, elese proportional. >o $Y minimum with Z% of each proize guaranteed. >o The class break downs (you have this). >o Incentive entry fees are next (maybe free entry to the highest >rated GM but now you have to state what rating scale). >o Some tournaments have reduced entry fee for early entries and >penalty fees for late entries. >o Now a very important part for humans entrants. >+ B number of half point byes allowed. the rounds you wish to >take a bye in must be stated by 2nd round. >This is something humans typically like!!!! >Since this tournament is paced very fast (humans may not like it). >So, giving them upfront ability to have 3 byes is good!!! >This may also be good for computer operators as well. > >For GM's ... , the tournament certainly has the attractiveness of no >travel fee's and no hotel expenses ... So, this could take off if >advertised well. > >Maybe, you should state how the prize will be delivered considering >the registration doesn't ask for mailing address .... That is something I simply forgot to add. All prizes and fees will be paid via paypal. It is fast, safe and secure. >A question on the rules >in the case of two amateur programs being the "same", the >author, if entered, is in amateur class while the "duplicate" is in >commercial class. > >Now, the real question -- what about clones? Do they go into the >commercial division if author is there and what if author is not there. Let's say Crafty enters, then El Chinto. El Chinto will be put in the commercial division. As the CCT has just past and I faced _many_ questions about certain programs, I followed the proper steps to ensure they were authentic. This included: 1. Contacting the entrant, stated there was an issue as to authenticity. 2. Asked for exe/source to compare against accused clone. 3. If no answer could be attained, I withdrew the entrant. 4. If found to be authentic, the participant continued. Peter
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