Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 05:09:04 02/27/05
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On February 27, 2005 at 07:52:09, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On February 27, 2005 at 07:22:44, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>>And this is my original question. Why should we NOT see a Shredder 9.01 free >>>release based on some knowledged learned from IPCCC? Sure would be nice. >> >>Maybe after the match against Hydra...:-) >> >>Well, do not forget that we cannot test against Hydra while they do and they >>have no money problems at all to test with any kind of harware. >> >>If we will improve the program, as we are planning, we may will make a Shredder >>10 new realease or an upgrade to 9.0 as Stefan will decide later... >> >>First we need to improve the program and beat Hydra... >> > > In my opinion and from what i have seen so far from "Shredder 9 + the used >hardware" and "Hydra + 16 or 32 processors" is that the two >Chess-playing-systems are about equal with Hydra having a slighly better >knowledge on attacking the King. > >BUT since: >A)Shredder's book was available for studying it and i don't think that the >modification you played was something totally different..... >B)Shredder 9 is available for testing and finding holes-weak parts at it and the >exact Shredder 9 played this last tournament...... >C)Shredder didn't played using 16 CPU's or 32 CPU's....... we used a quad processors. >D)Hydra isn't available for testing and finding holes-weak parts at it..... >E)Hydra's book, even a modification of it, isn't available...... > >i think Shredder is far on top............ And since i didn't know that Shredder >'s version that played against Hydra the 8 match and lost was a "buggy" >(whatever this mean) version, i can strengthen my opinion about this >matter....... OK, I can explain more what happened: the program part handling pieces exchange and pieces sacrifices was removed by accident, so everytime the program was pondering moves involving that was heavely handicapped or nearly blind. The deeper the program searched the bigger the handicap was. See the last game we lost to understand what we were facing and trying to avoid in the openings...as you can see that was a major handicap. In some games the handicap was (to me) of several hundreds of Elo points. In other games more limited. Sandro > >> >>> >>> >>>>This kind of positions are not frequent, so to take a single game as "rule" is >>>>wrong to me. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Remember Deep Blue in New York. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Sure I would like there to be such an event, but I am afraid it will not be. >>>> >>>>I believe there will be; maybe in summer. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Ernst. >>>> >>>>Sandro
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