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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List 2005-02-25

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:11:14 02/27/05

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On February 27, 2005 at 10:04:10, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 27, 2005 at 09:55:37, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2005 at 08:54:19, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>>
>>>On February 27, 2005 at 02:37:09, Thoralf Karlsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>     THE SSDF RATING LIST 2005-02-25    101022 games played by  270 computers
>>>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>
>>>>  34 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB  Athlon 1200 MHz  2617   26   -26   727   49%  2622
>>>...
>>>>  38 Crafty 19.17  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz     2522   43   -47   264   31%  2664
>>>
>>>How come Crafty 19 is so much lower rated than Crafty 18? Is it really so much
>>>weaker than the previous version?
>>>This seems strange to me, especially since from what I know (correct me if I am
>>>wrong) the ChessBase interface does not allow WinBoard engines to play at full
>>>strength.
>>
>>Crafty 18.12 was allowed to use Fritz's book and Fritz's book learner, and
>>ChessBase's interface.
>>
>>Crafty 19.17 used its own book, own book learner, and IIRC, the Arena interface.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>Yes but I think that this is not the main difference.
>The main difference is simply the fact that 19.17 is weaker under winboard and
>under the condition that almost everyone test except bob hyatt(windows and not
>linux).
>
>19.17 always performed worse in Leo's test tournament than 19.13
>
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/146.htm
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/161.htm
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/187.htm
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/205.htm
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/234.htm
>
>Uri

Here is another list when 19.15 performed better than 19.17
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/aegt2102.txt

I guess that the right Crafty with its own book could perform without chessbase
learning and chessbase book at least 70 elo better.

Uri



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