Author: Roger D Davis
Date: 15:17:59 02/28/05
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On February 28, 2005 at 18:09:57, Andreas Guettinger wrote: >On February 28, 2005 at 17:42:33, Roger D Davis wrote: > >>On February 28, 2005 at 11:03:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>>The website has been removed online already. I have it locally still. >>>> >>>>There is virtually no way to host it on FICS. Almost no titled players go there. >>>> >>>>Frankly with the way I was just treated by Mr.Grund, I am also in the process of >>>>removing _any_ mention of ICC on _all_ of my websites. >>>> >>>>When I say I was just treated like a criminal, I mean it. There was no asking to >>>>remove anything, it was demanded. He also wanted the names of the persons who >>>>paid, so that he can make sure they got a refund. I had no problems giving him >>>>the names, and was already in the process of refunding people, and cancelling >>>>other invoices. >>>> >>>>It is disgusting the way I was just treated. >>>> >>>>Peter >>> >>>I was actually considering getting an ICC account, with all these great events >>>(CCT7 and CHCT) but now i won't, i am sure that you have attracted quite a few >>>new paying users (of ICC) already and potentially even more in the future had >>>they not treated you this way, their loss!!. >>> >>>Now i hope you don't see this as anything other than a minor setback and start >>>your own online chess server :) >>> >>>Keep up the good work, can't wait for your next idea. >> >>Actually, starting your own online chess server to compete with ICC is a great >>idea...what with your computer/programming/internet skills, you could set up >>something very competitive in no time. You could give each chess author some >>upload space for their engine, and you could use WordPress or MoveableType to >>give each author a place to write something about their engine, while >>maintaining a consistent style across pages. You could get permission to have >>Talkchess.com appear in a frame, so that it's integrated into your site, or set >>up your own bulletin board. Who knows...it could become a community >>project...could rival ICC in a very short time. Tons of people here would >>support it, I'm sure. After what you said today, I have no love for ICC anymore. >> >>Roger > >On one hand I see some value in this (i.e to use the chess server for the CCTs >and as a meeting point and chat room for programmers) which would be a great >idea in my opinion. But you have to be aware that there would be only chess >engines playing on this server as not many human players (and for sure no titled >players) would play there. > >Also I want to state that in my several year experience with ICC I always found >most of the admins there quite nice and helpful. They gave me (and many others) >a computer account for free (and my engine is not even playing chess yet, sssht) >apart from my normal account for which I pay. I agree there are some good and >some heavy-handed admins (as there is always a good and a bad cop), but you find >them on all the chess servers. Somebody has to deal with the difficult cases. > >Especially Zek was always fair and helpful when I was on ICC. Don't doom the >whole ICC just because of one bad experience. > >regards >Andy In the beginning it would be mainly chess authors, but that's just the beginning. You have to think about what it could become, and it could become a place where the public could log in and play against many different chess engines. They can even read about the engines they'll be playing against, because the authors would maintain their own set of pages about the engines, consistently styled using WordPress or MoveableType. Much more attractive than ICC. ICC is pretty clunky when you think about it. A lot more could be done... Roger
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