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Subject: Re: Microcomputers vs. Grandmasters

Author: Raul Kukk

Date: 14:35:27 01/29/99

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On January 29, 1999 at 16:18:48, Matt Frank wrote:

>
>>On what basis do you make this assumption?  Computers have not been tested
>>extensively against humans under tournament conditions.  The SSDF ratings are
>>computed against other computers, for instance.  Certainly the computers are
>>very strong.  But are they GM level?  And the sneaky radio deal does not
>>convince me either.
>
>As I note later my assumptions are based on research using published data,
>includiung data from the AEGON tournaments. I wonder why that stopped :-}
>
>>Who is "we"?  Are you going to supply the prize money?  If a computer wins a
>>tournament, does it get the prize?  If you play against a computer and cannot
>>benefit and can only lose out, would you want to do it?
>
>We is you! And any other interested parties.
>
>>I would love to see a match like this.  What would be really interesting is 32
>>GMs against the 32 top programs in a week long tournament.  That would give us
>>some really excellent data.
>
>
>I love your suggestion!! The data would be tremendous!!!
>
>>GM Matches against computers are very, very rare under formal conditions.  They
>>happen all the time on ICC and FICS.
>
>Do you have any reasonable comparisons that youn are aware of from ACC and FICS
>games?
>
>>The GM's have nothing to gain and everything to lose.  Why should they want to
>>play?  And if we are going to come up with $100,000 prize money, who is going to
>>cough it up?
>
>Sponsors (e.g., Apple computer, Dell Computer, Hiarcs, ChessBase, etc) would be
>anyone that might have an interested in seeing such a match or tournament. But
>it won't happen until someone talks about it with potential sponsors. I would be
>willing to put up my own money to ensure a match with such a GM. Say $500 for
>playing all the games,  an additional $1,500 to the GM if they win outright in
>an 8 game match. I'm not interested in this as a commercial venture for profit I
>want to demonstrate the technology.
>
>Matt Frank
 How about ten best GMs against ten best commercial programs? :) 2-4 rounds
(20-40games). Y think score will be 70%-30%  It will be the same as former
Soviet Union in 60s against other world !!



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