Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba
Date: 14:50:13 01/29/99
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On January 29, 1999 at 15:49:18, Matt Frank wrote: >It is my position that we have now moved clearly into a dimension where software >obtained for under $100 dollars can play at grandmaster level while played on >hardware obtained for less than $2000. For example, it is my contention that my >G3 233 Power Mac purchased in early '98 for much less than $2000, is a 2600 + >rated elo performer (2610 give or take a few dozen points) using MAC Hiarcs 7. >Other software, Fritz 5.32, Rebel 10 EOC--anti-grandmaster, and Chess Tiger 11 >+, among others should be similarly endowed if they could play on my MAC. These >other programs played on P2s with 400 MHZ processors should have similar or >better results. > >The key question is this, when are we going to sweeten the pot sufficiently >(i.e., cash prizes) so that Grandmasters rated FIDE between 2500-2650, will find >it attractive to compete against our demons? A match like this would clearly >demonstrate once and for all the present level of these hardware software >configs. I know all about Rebel 9 against Yusupov, and Rebel >10--EOC--Anti-grandmaster against Anand. Yusupov is a 2650 player, and Anand is >just shy of 2800 elo FIDE. In either case the human won under tournament >conditions (40/2hrs.), which is the best playing speed for humans vs computers. > Best time control for a human against a computer is correspondence chess, not standard. >I think that a 6 or 8 game match against a Grandmaster of decent reputation >(e.g., Christiansen, Benjamin, Yermolinsly, de Firmian, etc) would be a strong >test. I believe that my machine would not be at a disadvantage against any of >these players at 40/2hrs. Of course quicker timed games would be to my systems' >advantage. Therefore, the fairest test for a human against Hiarcs 7 G3 233 would >be games at least all moves in 25 minutes or longer. > >Are there matches between human grandmasters and the latest software running on >machines as fast as I have poroposed? Aside from the Deen Hergott vs Hiarcs 6 >match (won by hiarcs 6 4-2 on a P2 200 64 Ram machine in 1997) I know of no >other matches. Hergott is rated 2370 FIDE elo and is an International Master. If >you assume that Hiarcs 6 on that machine was rated FIDE 2525 or so based on the >SSDF ratings then the score was well within expectations (i.e., a score of 4-2 >would be consistent with an elo diff of about 120 points, where in fact it is >about 155 if you take the SSDF rankings as reasonable facsimiles of the FIDE elo >ratings. Incidentially, when Hergott played this match he was actually rated at >2495 FIDE elo based on his 1996 ratings. > >My question is, can I get comments about how you all feel about these prospects? >I'd prefer that we don't quibble about the ratings (even though I am sure many >of you have serious doubts about my assumptions--I'd love to play this match to >prove my point), rather, that we focus on how such a match may be culminated. > >Matt Frank
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