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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List 2005-02-25

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:34:31 03/01/05

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On March 01, 2005 at 17:23:20, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On March 01, 2005 at 12:10:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>No.  Position learning is pretty "opponent-specific".  And it stored exact
>>positional scores.  If I make any change in the evaluation, then those scores
>>are wrong and can't be used.  SO every version change needs to delete
>>position.bin at the very least...  Book learning is also based on positional
>>scores, and are also opponent-specific.  If you let it go too long without
>>clearing, it will eventually lose a game with most every opening, obviously, and
>>flag them all as bad, when for some of the games, it wasn't the opening that was
>>inferior, the opponent simply played better.
>
>Wouldn't it be better to make the learning global instead of opponent specific?
>
>With nearly everyone using Shredder online, it would be best to learn _those_
>lines instead of just for this person or that person.

When I said "opponent specific" I mean that what it does is to prevent one
opponent from finding a book exit point where he can beat the program over and
over.  Two different opponents rarely play the same openings so the position
learning is totally wasted there...

>
>Also most titled players use the latest theory in their openings. Learning that
>would as well be beneficial.
>
>Peter


The math doesn't work.  A good book could be made from a PGN file with
100,000,000 moves.  Position.bin comes from searches done _below_ some of those
book lines.  The likelihood of seeing a position a second time from a different
opponent is nearly zero.




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