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Subject: Re: 2 "unsolved" positions

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 11:22:29 03/06/05

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On March 06, 2005 at 09:46:02, Jouni Uski wrote:

>These positions remain unsolved years now in 10 minutes:
>
>[D]1q1r3k/3P1pp1/ppBR1n1p/4Q2P/P4P2/8/5PK1/8 w - - bm Rxf6
>[D]r1b1k2r/pp3ppp/4pb2/2n5/3RB3/4BN2/PqP1QPPP/3R2K1 w kq - bm Rd8+
>
>Any solutions?
>
>Jouni

For #2, not solved after a 20 minute 5.3 billion node search although I beleive
it is consider the second best move.  Ng5 here looks very good here and maybe
better than Rd8.

Seaching just Rd8, it is a point behind Ng5 after a 15 ply search..

    15->   6:59   0.66   1. Rd8+ Bxd8 2. Bxc5 Be7 3. Qd2 f5
                         4. Bxe7 Kxe7 5. Bxf5 g6 6. Be4 Kf7
                         7. Qh6 Ke8 8. Qg5 Kf7 9. Ne5+ Kg7

Black(1): r1b1k2r/pp3ppp/4pb2/2n5/3RB3/4BN2/PqP1QPPP/3R2K1 w kq - bm Rd8+
White(1): go
              time surplus  29.92  time limit 20:00 (20:00)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
starting thread 1
                8     0.60   0.46   1. Ng5 h6 2. Nh7 Bxd4 3. Bxd4 Qb4 4.
                                    Bxg7 Qxe4 5. Qxe4 Nxe4 6. Bxh8
                8->   0.89   0.46   1. Ng5 h6 2. Nh7 Bxd4 3. Bxd4 Qb4 4.
                                    Bxg7 Qxe4 5. Qxe4 Nxe4 6. Bxh8
                9     1.99   0.75   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. R4d2 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 Qe5
                                    4. Qe3 Nxe4 5. Rxd7 O-O 6. Rxb7
                9->   2.57   0.75   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. R4d2 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 Qe5
                                    4. Qe3 Nxe4 5. Rxd7 O-O 6. Rxb7
               10     5.55   1.13   1. Ng5 Bxd4 2. Bxd4 Qa3 3. Bxh7 Bd7
                                    4. Bxg7 O-O-O 5. Bxh8 Rxh8
               10->   6.82   1.13   1. Ng5 Bxd4 2. Bxd4 Qa3 3. Bxh7 Bd7
                                    4. Bxg7 O-O-O 5. Bxh8 Rxh8
               11    19.14   1.16   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Rc8 3. R4d2 Bxg5
                                    4. Bxg5 f5 5. Bxb7 Rc7 6. Ba8 O-O
               11->  23.33   1.16   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Rc8 3. R4d2 Bxg5
                                    4. Bxg5 f5 5. Bxb7 Rc7 6. Ba8 O-O
               12    48.14   1.24   1. Ng5 h6 2. R4d2 O-O 3. Bxc5 Bxg5
                                    4. f4 Bxf4 5. Rd8 Bxh2+ 6. Kh1 Bd6
                                    7. R1xd6 Qxa2 8. Rxf8+ Kxf8
               12->   1:04   1.24   1. Ng5 h6 2. R4d2 O-O 3. Bxc5 Bxg5
                                    4. f4 Bxf4 5. Rd8 Bxh2+ 6. Kh1 Bd6
                                    7. R1xd6 Qxa2 8. Rxf8+ Kxf8
               13     2:14   1.37   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 O-O
                                    4. Bxh7+ Kxh7 5. Bf6 Qxc2 6. Qh5+ Kg8
                                    7. Bxg7 Qh7 8. Qxc5 b6 9. Qe7
               13->   3:18   1.37   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 O-O
                                    4. Bxh7+ Kxh7 5. Bf6 Qxc2 6. Qh5+ Kg8
                                    7. Bxg7 Qh7 8. Qxc5 b6 9. Qe7
               14     5:19   1.66   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 O-O
                                    4. Bxh7+ Kxh7 5. Rh4+ Kg8 6. Qh3 f6
                                    7. Rh8+ Kf7 8. Qh5+ Ke7 9. Be3 Nb3
                                    10. Bc5+ Nxc5 11. Qxc5+ Kf7 12. Rxd7+
               14->   8:08   1.66   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Bxg5 3. Bxg5 O-O
                                    4. Bxh7+ Kxh7 5. Rh4+ Kg8 6. Qh3 f6
                                    7. Rh8+ Kf7 8. Qh5+ Ke7 9. Be3 Nb3
                                    10. Bc5+ Nxc5 11. Qxc5+ Kf7 12. Rxd7+
                                    (s=2)
               15    13:20   1.68   1. Ng5 Bd7 2. Qf3 Rc8 3. Nxh7 Nxe4
                                    4. Rxd7 Rxh7 5. Qxe4 Rh4 6. Qf3 Qe5
                                    7. h3 Qe4 8. Qxe4 Rxe4 9. Rxb7 Rxc2
                                    10. Rxa7
               15    19:45   7/50*  1. Rd6

              time=20:00  cpu=32827%  mat=-1  n=5330941885  fh=95%  nps=4.44M
              ext-> chk=398623717 cap=8763266 pp=201930 1rep=27144258 mate=19895
71
              predicted=1  nodes=5330941885  evals=719549190  50move=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=1231  stop=201  data=9/64  cpu=715240:05  elap=20:00

White(1): Ng5
              time used:  20:00




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