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Subject: Re: Microcomputers vs. Grandmasters

Author: Matt Frank

Date: 19:56:13 01/29/99

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On January 29, 1999 at 22:52:04, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 29, 1999 at 22:06:25, Matt Frank wrote:
>
>>>So in other words, an opinion in a near complete vacuum of knowlege is just as
>>>ephemeral as a fading idea as we pass into sleep, and has about the same
>>>tangibility.
>>>
>>>That's my opinion of how strong it was.
>>
>>Well that machine and it's previous iteration (which had maybe 50-120 weaker elo
>>score) has a score of -1 during 12 match games with the world champion. Are you,
>>or are we really in a vacuum?
>Yes, we are.  Same thing with the Anand match.  We do know the computers are
>good, very good.  But how good I honestly believe we do not have enough
>informaiton to justify a statement.  Look how many games it takes to get a GM
>norm.  That's not by accident.  In such a long trial, any weakness will be
>exposed.  With a few very short exhibitions, we really have no idea.  It is also
>possible that with better fabs today that they could build a deepest blue that
>is 100x faster than deep blue.  But if a frog had wings, he would not scrape his
>butt on the rocks.  And if wishes were horses then beggars would fly.
>
>It all makes for interesting banter, but (as I also feel about most of the
>opinion polls) there is not really much point in speculation because we have
>insufficient facts.
>
>Suppose that a new phenom (we'll call him charlie) played 12 games against top
>GM's and won most of them.  Would we really believe that charlie was a GM until
>we saw him duplicate it 10 times at least?
>
>Perhaps the reason they dismantled deep blue is that they were _aware_ of some
>fundamental flaw that would eventually be discovered.  We simply don't know.

And with this post we have closure :-) I agree with you totally on this. How do
we get Grandmasters to play so we can all get a handle on this?

Matt Frank



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