Author: KarinsDad
Date: 20:11:24 01/29/99
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On January 29, 1999 at 22:12:21, Matt Frank wrote: >>think realistically. The DB guys have more experience than any commercial >>programmer by a _wide_ margin. Murray Campbell was working on computer chess >>in the 1970's... for example... Don't underestimate their skills when >>comparing them to commercial programs... they are _not_ behind at all, quite >>the contrary. > >Believe me I am not denigrating the team or the accomplishment. I think what we >have is familiarity (with regard to ourt commercial software and hardware) >breeds contempt, which may be leading some of our posters to seriously >underestimate the true stregth of the commercial software compared to Deep >Blue's > >>and no micro has come close to beating a kasparov in tournament play with a >>million dollar prize on the line. Nor can one come close today. I don't think >>they could beat any GM in a match at 40/2hr at present, although they would >>likely win some games... and this _particularly_ evident when the GM is >>'computer savvy' and knows how to 'play the machine' which is becoming more >>common... > >Take a walk on the wildside for an eyeopener: Http://www.rebel.nl/chespres.htm Yes, Rebel won: 3.0 - 1.0 in G5+5 (in a 60+ move game, this is similar to a G15 game) 1.5 - 0.5 in G15 0.5 - 1.5 in 40/120 SD/1 Can you say 6 games out of 8 at computer advantaged time? And the computer still only won 5-3. Cut me a break. The fact is that Anand lost one of the 15 minutes games because he lost on time and didn't know there was no delay there in a game where he had the advantage. Otherwise, the score would probably have been 4-4. This does not open my eyes at all. Show me something real as far as regulation time control goes. G5+5 is a game of blunders for humans, even superGMs. Now that the GMs know about anti-grandmaster strategies, they will probably look for openings which force their opponent to get into closed and positional games and the computers will fall behind once again. KarinsDad
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