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Subject: Re: Is it time for the Winboard Protocol to go the way of the Dodo?

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 12:54:36 03/09/05

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On March 09, 2005 at 15:04:19, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On March 09, 2005 at 15:02:55, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On March 09, 2005 at 14:55:22, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>
>>>On March 09, 2005 at 14:36:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 09, 2005 at 14:20:34, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 09, 2005 at 12:13:26, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>After the post on how Daniel Mehrmann is still working on XBoard/Winboard, I
>>>>>>immediately starting thinking of ways to waste his time.  My question is: Does
>>>>>>Winboard really have any advantages over UCI any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Anthony WB/UCI comparison:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>+UCI:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Interface is cleaner & easier to implement, not being based on the crappy GNU
>>>>>>chess protocol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Supports Multiple PVs, refutations, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graphical configuration of engines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>+WinBoard:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can operate in text mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And this comparison is (obviously) quite favorable to UCI, although I may have
>>>>>>missed things.  Anyway, I'd be willing to help Daniel out over the next few
>>>>>>weeks if it meant a new version of Xboard with UCI support, and I'm guessing
>>>>>>there would be a few other people willing to help out as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>anthony
>>>>>
>>>>>I know nothing about this, as I've used only Xboard/WinBoard since I started PM.
>>>>>Is there any Xboard-equivalent UCI interface on Linux or other platforms?
>>>>
>>>>Jose is written in Java, so it runs on everything.  It's really nice, highly
>>>>recommended.
>>>>
>>>>http://jose-chess.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>>Is it possible to run engines at chess servers with this GUI?
>>
>>Not yet.
>>
>>It is planned for the future.
>
>The development roadmap for Jose:
>
>jose Roadmap
>
>Features for the next Releases
>Reports (table and/or JFreeChart ?)
>Engine vs. Engine
>new, compact File Format (partially implemented)
>Autocomplete input fields for players and events
>MySQL embedded library (still very experimental)
>SCID file import/export
>Opening Book
>
>Features for the far future
>Store user preferences (window layout, colors)
>ICS interface
>Duplicates Detection
>Player & Event Management (edit, find duplicates, etc.)
>Autocomplete input fields
>Undo
>MySQL 5.0: Server Cursors, Close Result Sets

I'm sure it's a nice program (it certainly looks very nice), but with no
engine-vs-engine and no server play, I can't really see much point to it for me.
There is really no point at all in *me* playing against postmodernist. I hope it
continues to develop however.

I think Anthony's original list missed out the most important feature of
winboard, which is xboard :-))  Seriously, I have a PC with Windows on it here,
but I've not switched it on for a great many months. I can't imagine myself ever
switching to Windows for developing PM.

Andrew





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