Author: Heinz van Kempen
Date: 16:18:05 03/09/05
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Hi Tord :-), yes, I saw of course that you mainly reacted to Karl-Heinz and in my opinion it was very unlucky that he initially and over many hours did not gave the full information he had in this forum and only in "Schachwerkstatt". So I wanted to make clear that I already had this information, before I posted about similarities in games output. I would not have posted them without the other evidence, would have extended my tests to 100 positions and more to decide if to take Toga into CEGT, that is a very CPU time consuming event. Probably we would have renounced to take it in and I would have simply send an email to Karl-Heinz and the author asking if we are dealing with an engine very similar to Fruit. I appreciate that Fabien, you and others want to do something positive for all the authors and give them some more clues, but it apparently involves that there will almost "paste and copy clones". Luckily those will be the easiest to detect, but cloners will learn to be more clever. For us testers there is simply the question if it is not better to opt for the other way. First not to include engines that are already very strong with their first release, not include betas without versions already released and just wait and see until we can be sure that they are based mainly on own work and genius. Best Regards Heinz
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