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Subject: Re: Toga Clone

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 19:24:22 03/09/05

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On March 09, 2005 at 21:38:10, Alex Newman wrote:

>On March 09, 2005 at 21:23:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On March 09, 2005 at 20:45:35, Alex Newman wrote:
>>
>>>On March 09, 2005 at 20:29:50, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 09, 2005 at 20:27:09, Alex Newman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I can take the source code of Crafty and make an engine stronger then Crafty in
>>>>>less then a week.
>>>>
>>>>And then two years later, the latest crafty will blow your doors off, no matter
>>>>how much effort you put into your clone upkeep.
>>>>
>>>>That is from understanding one gear in the motor, but not even how to do a
>>>>proper tune up.
>>>>
>>>>Believe It Or Not It's Crafty.
>>>
>>>I just wanted to point that excuse by Toga author that Toga is stronger then
>>>Crafty doesn't mean anything. Anyone can do what he did with Toga.
>>>It's slap in the face to all authors who spent years developing their engines.
>>>Toga guy probably spent just a couple of months working on it.
>>
>>This is possible.  It is also possible that he has been working for years or is
>>very gifted.
>>
>>I think right now, we do not have all the facts.
>>
>>It is possible for someone to read the crafty code and read fruit code and write
>>a very strong chess engine if they understood it.
>>
>>I think (from a standpoint of probability) that some copying may have taken
>>place and maybe even blatant, wholesale cloning.  But before making any
>>judgements, we should collect all the facts and also the clear statements of the
>>one claiming to be the author.
>>
>>Right now, the information we have is ambiguous at best.
>
>Evidence presented so far is more then enough for me. Did you read all the
>posts?

Yes.  I am slower to pass judgement than most, probably.  I am very hard to
convince 'beyond reasonable doubt'.



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