Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 02:32:07 03/11/05
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On March 10, 2005 at 16:36:30, Frank Phillips wrote: >On March 10, 2005 at 09:24:14, Andrew Williams wrote: > >>On March 10, 2005 at 08:29:02, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >> >>>On March 09, 2005 at 12:13:26, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>> >>>>After the post on how Daniel Mehrmann is still working on XBoard/Winboard, I >>>>immediately starting thinking of ways to waste his time. My question is: Does >>>>Winboard really have any advantages over UCI any more? >>>> >>>>The Anthony WB/UCI comparison: >>>> >>>>+UCI: >>>> >>>>Interface is cleaner & easier to implement, not being based on the crappy GNU >>>>chess protocol. >>>> >>>>Supports Multiple PVs, refutations, etc. >>>> >>>>Graphical configuration of engines. >>>> >>>>+WinBoard: >>>> >>>>Can operate in text mode. >>>> >>>>And this comparison is (obviously) quite favorable to UCI, although I may have >>>>missed things. Anyway, I'd be willing to help Daniel out over the next few >>>>weeks if it meant a new version of Xboard with UCI support, and I'm guessing >>>>there would be a few other people willing to help out as well. >>>> >>>>anthony >>> >>>The current situation is quite ok - every author implements the protocol he >>>prefers, and adapters exist to make sure that every engine runs in every GUI. >>>(Except Fritz & Junior -- gggrrrr :)). >>> >>>Personally, I'm quite sure that UCI support requires less code and less of a >>>mess in your engine - but it's really a minor issue. It was quite easy for me to >>>decide for UCI. >>> >>>As for GUIs - if you haven't already done so, I'd suggest you at least try the >>>professional GUIs. I doubt it's worth it to try to get winboard caught up .. >>> >>>Vas >> >>Lots of people develop on Linux. I'm not going to suddenly start using Windows >>to do chess programming when I use Linux for everything else. >> >>Andrew > >I would like to second that. > >It is depressing if the suggestion is that all (hobby) chess programmers should >have to agree to the MS licence and fund their 'business' tactics - or write >their own GUI. > >Frank Yes, this is a good point. I worked in Unix until 2003 and can sympathize with this. You shouldn't kid yourselves though - and probably you don't - in many cases you pay a price when you cannot use Windows apps. Maybe it's not right but it's just the reality. Vas
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