Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 12:51:50 03/11/05
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On March 11, 2005 at 05:32:07, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >On March 10, 2005 at 16:36:30, Frank Phillips wrote: > >>On March 10, 2005 at 09:24:14, Andrew Williams wrote: >> >>>On March 10, 2005 at 08:29:02, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >>> >>>>On March 09, 2005 at 12:13:26, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>>> >>>>>After the post on how Daniel Mehrmann is still working on XBoard/Winboard, I >>>>>immediately starting thinking of ways to waste his time. My question is: Does >>>>>Winboard really have any advantages over UCI any more? >>>>> >>>>>The Anthony WB/UCI comparison: >>>>> >>>>>+UCI: >>>>> >>>>>Interface is cleaner & easier to implement, not being based on the crappy GNU >>>>>chess protocol. >>>>> >>>>>Supports Multiple PVs, refutations, etc. >>>>> >>>>>Graphical configuration of engines. >>>>> >>>>>+WinBoard: >>>>> >>>>>Can operate in text mode. >>>>> >>>>>And this comparison is (obviously) quite favorable to UCI, although I may have >>>>>missed things. Anyway, I'd be willing to help Daniel out over the next few >>>>>weeks if it meant a new version of Xboard with UCI support, and I'm guessing >>>>>there would be a few other people willing to help out as well. >>>>> >>>>>anthony >>>> >>>>The current situation is quite ok - every author implements the protocol he >>>>prefers, and adapters exist to make sure that every engine runs in every GUI. >>>>(Except Fritz & Junior -- gggrrrr :)). >>>> >>>>Personally, I'm quite sure that UCI support requires less code and less of a >>>>mess in your engine - but it's really a minor issue. It was quite easy for me to >>>>decide for UCI. >>>> >>>>As for GUIs - if you haven't already done so, I'd suggest you at least try the >>>>professional GUIs. I doubt it's worth it to try to get winboard caught up .. >>>> >>>>Vas >>> >>>Lots of people develop on Linux. I'm not going to suddenly start using Windows >>>to do chess programming when I use Linux for everything else. >>> >>>Andrew >> >>I would like to second that. >> >>It is depressing if the suggestion is that all (hobby) chess programmers should >>have to agree to the MS licence and fund their 'business' tactics - or write >>their own GUI. >> >>Frank > >Yes, this is a good point. I worked in Unix until 2003 and can sympathize with >this. > >You shouldn't kid yourselves though - and probably you don't - in many cases you >pay a price when you cannot use Windows apps. Maybe it's not right but it's just >the reality. > >Vas It is small compared to the price of using MS Windows; and infinitely small compared to the price of having no choice. Frank
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